Vick's co-defendent shot @ Vick's Bday party

[Hawk]

Let me make sure I'm getting your argument correct here...rape is rape, regardless of circumstance. Is that what you're saying?

I don't look at the guy who goes too far with some lovestruck groupie the same way I look at the serial rapist who picks women at random and ties them down somewhere, any more than I look at the guy who finances and attends dog fights the same way I look at the guy who accidentally backed over someone's dog in the driveway.

Rape is a very powerful word. The way you are using it, you make Big Ben sound like some dude who should be taking it up the keester in a prison shower somewhere. To me, he's just the latest sad example of the different world we and our favorite athletes live in.

I knew I couldn't keep agreeing with you today, that would just be wrong!

Rape is rape, no matter who the victim is, no matter who the raper is. As soon as she says no....it's rape!

[Wither]

I knew I couldn't keep agreeing with you today, that would just be wrong!

Rape is rape, no matter who the victim is, no matter who the raper is. As soon as she says no....it's rape!

I thought that said "rapper" at first. Am I racist?

[Al Bundy]

I knew I couldn't keep agreeing with you today, that would just be wrong!

Rape is rape, no matter who the victim is, no matter who the raper is. As soon as she says no....it's rape!

What if they don't say anything at all? :blush5:

[CarolinaKat]

No I want to heat my house and run my car off of the homeless. I want to put that change to work for me!

So how exactly are you not the same evil as Vick for killing his dogs.

Riddle me that......Ya'll are a sad bunch of hypocrites.

[Hawk]

What if they don't say anything at all? :blush5:

certainly makes it much tougher then, doesn't it!

but...I'm a firm believe in no means no!

[Matt Foley]

I knew I couldn't keep agreeing with you today, that would just be wrong!

Rape is rape, no matter who the victim is, no matter who the raper is. As soon as she says no....it's rape!

Well, then....I have been raped many many times, by women who just didn't like hearing that word.

[88 Bronco]

So how exactly are you not the same evil as Vick for killing his dogs.

Riddle me that......Ya'll are a sad bunch of hypocrites.

Because people can find productive things to do to avoid being homeless, and which is worth more

or

[sunbunny]

I knew I couldn't keep agreeing with you today, that would just be wrong!

Rape is rape, no matter who the victim is, no matter who the raper is. As soon as she says no....it's rape!

I'm trying to stay out of this thread, but I got sucked in again.

Gotta agree with hawky here. Rape is rape. If she says "no", and you keep on, it's rape.

I keep typing and deleting. I'll just leave it at that and back out of the thread again.

[Matt Foley]

Well if Ben's a rapist what does that make the cop who covered for him and everyone else involved in the case?

[The Saltman]

Well if Ben's a rapist what does that make the cop who covered for him and everyone else involved in the case?

did they put their penis inside her vagina?

[Panthro]

Oh fvck Saltman knows how to breed

[Wither]

Well if Ben's a rapist what does that make the cop who covered for him and everyone else involved in the case?

A criminal.

[The Saltman]

Oh fvck Saltman knows how to breed

lol my daughter is living proof.

[CarolinaKat]

Because people can find productive things to do to avoid being homeless

So people are only homeless because they want to be?