FYI davis is not one of the three players the Panthers can't replace

[Squirrel]

Dont sleep on Ivy. He had to bulk up last year but the guy can sniff out the football.

[Doc Holiday]

there are three players whos loss would do serious damage to the panthers season.

Beason

Kalil

Smith

Everyone else is replaceable.

This is not the end of the world.

Not even like a roland emmerich end of the world.

James Anderson will do well.

f**k the Mets.

He may not be top 3 but he is number 4 or 5.

You don't lose your second best defensive player and it not hurt you team badly.

[Sandy Claws]

When attempting to correct people, it really helps to know your facts. At least one of those sacks was against the giants. Good fail.

Mine was no where near as good as yours. In fact, mine was non-existent. Point out this phantom sack or crown yourself MORON.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamesanderson/gamelogs?id=AND291445

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamesanderson/gamelogs?id=AND291445&season=2008

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamesanderson/gamelogs?id=AND291445&season=2007

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamesanderson/gamelogs?id=AND291445&season=2006

[panthers55]

He may not be top 3 but he is number 4 or 5.

You don't lose your second best defensive player and it not hurt you team badly.

We lost him last year and did fine. He played at a high level last year for half a season. Prior to that he was good but not great. Too many people are totaling overvaluing his contributions and worth over a 7 game stint last year. Also remember that part of his numbers getting inflated was that the Will backer is the featured back in Meek's system. That isn't to take anything away from him but honestly, he hasn't been an all-pro any of the time he has been here.

[monstercat]

We lost him last year and did fine. He played at a high level last year for half a season. Prior to that he was good but not great. Too many people are totaling overvaluing his contributions and worth over a 7 game stint last year. Also remember that part of his numbers getting inflated was that the Will backer is the featured back in Meek's system. That isn't to take anything away from him but honestly, he hasn't been an all-pro any of the time he has been here.

If you feel that way about TD, then why have you been freaking out over the loss of guys like Kemo and Lewis? TD is much more of a star player than either of those guys.

[rayzor]

williams was insurance for TD. it was always a possibility that TD would go down again. better now than any other point, imo.

moving beason over there is a decent option as well considering that we have penn state's all time greatest linebacker waiting to step in at the Mike.

depth at LB isn't as good as it was before davis went down but it's still plenty good enough to handle the load.

our defense would have been better with davis than without him but it also won't fall apart because he isn't there.

we have several good choices here with regards to formation.

i'm not pumped about the defense but i'm also not worried about it because we lost davis. we will be fine.

hopefully he comes back in october or november and we can still make a run for the playoffs.

[panthers55]

If you feel that way about TD, then why have you been freaking out over the loss of guys like Kemo and Lewis? TD is much more of a star player than either of those guys.

He has potential but as far as production it hasn't been that wonderful. He played only 7 games last year. He will play none this year. In 2008- he had a very good year but honestly before that he was average at best. My point is that people freak out as if we we are going to lose a probowler and he hasn't been. Outside of 2008 we haven't really had great production out of him. This is his sixth year in the league. At the end of that he will have contributed a total of 327 tackles, 9.5 sacks, and 1 INT. Not exactly stellar. Compare that to Beason who in 3 years has 419 tackles, 3 sacks and 7 Ints.

I told you before but will reinterate it again since you seem to be slow. I didn't freak out over one player but nine of them (8 when Brayton was resigned). Any one guy is replaceable outside of Peppers but not when you are replacing so many guys at once. With Thomas it now makes 9 starters we will be replacing from last year's team. To assume we won't have any more injuries and that all of the new guys plus all of their backups will perform as well as last year is a huge reach at this point. At this point 3 of the 4 linemen and 2 of the 3 linebackers have little expereince compared to who they replaced. That means of our front seven- 5 are relatively new. And many of their backups who will play in the rotation are either new to the NFL or very inexperienced.

But I won't rehash ancient history just once again point out the obvious to those for which it seems still obtuse.

[Wither]

Godfrey didn't make the list?

[Brandon]

He has potential but as far as production it hasn't been that wonderful. He played only 7 games last year. He will play none this year. In 2008- he had a very good year but honestly before that he was average at best. My point is that people freak out as if we we are going to lose a probowler and he hasn't been. Outside of 2008 we haven't really had great production out of him. This is his sixth year in the league. At the end of that he will have contributed a total of 327 tackles, 9.5 sacks, and 1 INT. Not exactly stellar. Compare that to Beason who in 3 years has 419 tackles, 3 sacks and 7 Ints.

I told you before but will reinterate it again since you seem to be slow. I didn't freak out over one player but nine of them (8 when Brayton was resigned). Any one guy is replaceable outside of Peppers but not when you are replacing so many guys at once. With Thomas it now makes 9 starters we will be replacing from last year's team. To assume we won't have any more injuries and that all of the new guys plus all of their backups will perform as well as last year is a huge reach at this point. At this point 3 of the 4 linemen and 2 of the 3 linebackers have little expereince compared to who they replaced. That means of our front seven- 5 are relatively new. And many of their backups who will play in the rotation are either new to the NFL or very inexperienced.

But I won't rehash ancient history just once again point out the obvious to those for which it seems still obtuse.

Ugh... I hate to say it but you just don't get it. Stats are meaningless in this situation. He developed a great deal as a player so his performance prior to 2008 is meaningless. In '08 and early in the '09 season he showed not only that he finally grasped everything it meant to play LB, he played on a level that put him as one of the best players at his position.

You pointed out that the Cover-2 scheme we run funnels a lot of plays to the Will... Hello! That's entirely the point of why some of us worry. With the possibility of Beason playing Will and Connor being the Mike I worry a bit less but whomever is in that spot will have to perform a lot of roles and play at a high level.

[Proudiddy]

You mean the 2 sacks he got in th elast game of the year against Saints backups because the Saints had locked up the Division, a bye, and were playing for absolutely nothing? And they were the only 2 sacks of the year. Good thing he was able to grab 1 against the Vikes this year to bring his 4 year career total to 3.

You might want to check that recollector. I think it needs calibrating.

Yes those two sacks, he also got several pressures towards the end of the year that year and last year when he played. My 'recollector' doesn't need any calibrating, I said I remembered him getting a few sacks, against New Orleans in particular... So where was I wrong? And I didn't have to look up nfl.com to point that out. Perhaps I should've said 'couple' sacks to make everyone happy.

[panthers55]

Ugh... I hate to say it but you just don't get it. Stats are meaningless in this situation. He developed a great deal as a player so his performance prior to 2008 is meaningless. In '08 and early in the '09 season he showed not only that he finally grasped everything it meant to play LB, he played on a level that put him as one of the best players at his position.

You pointed out that the Cover-2 scheme we run funnels a lot of plays to the Will... Hello! That's entirely the point of why some of us worry. With the possibility of Beason playing Will and Connor being the Mike I worry a bit less but whomever is in that spot will have to perform a lot of roles and play at a high level.

I get it. Don't worry. What I get is that if you can't stay on the field it doesn't matter how great you are supposed to be. I get that potential and 2 bucks will buy you a cup of coffee. And I get that the NFL is a what have you done for me lately league not a "what could you do if only you weren't hurt again" league.

What we could have had if he came back is one thing. But what we will get is likely no worse than what we had last year at linebacker when Davis didn't play during the last 5 games when our defense was dominant.

I am not going to focus on what could have been. Hell, if I had won the lottery a few weeks ago I wouldn't be here now messaging. I am going to focus on what we have which at least at linebacker won't be nearly as bad as you and others think.

[Snake]

I feel like there is nobody on team that you can replace but the three guys mentioned above hold the team in tact so if they were lost then the season would go down the drain.

Example: Year Smitty got hurt in the pre-season game against Green Bay (I think)

Moose had over a 1,000 yards and went to the Pro-bowl that year. So thats a very bad example.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Moose had over a 1,000 yards and went to the Pro-bowl that year. So thats a very bad example.

Yeah and how did the team do??? Good for Moose, but this isn't about individual stats.

[Sandy Claws]

Yes those two sacks, he also got several pressures towards the end of the year that year and last year when he played. My 'recollector' doesn't need any calibrating, I said I remembered him getting a few sacks, against New Orleans in particular... So where was I wrong? And I didn't have to look up nfl.com to point that out. Perhaps I should've said 'couple' sacks to make everyone happy.

How sweet. I get one guy claiming I don't verify my stats and another whining that I did but should have based my post purely on memory.

Reality = I recall thinking during the season that we could have got more with that 3rd round pick than we got from Mr. Anderson. Sure, I looked up his stat line prior to posting and saw what I expected. IMO, your post seemed intended to inflate his production. Sorry if I misinterpreted.