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I wonder If we all are worried about the same thing.

koolkatluke

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Our run def. and not too much the sweeps and off tackle plays but the runs up the middle the dives the counters. Pass rush might be a big issues but I like our option there better then the DT situation. I'm not even worried about the Offense. (I maybe more sure about the offense then I've ever been.) Saying this do any of you think that Jerry can open up the wallet a inch and maybe give John Henderson a call? This would give me and alot of you more confidence in this def. One good thing about Preseason is if we see this is going too be a problem we can get somebody before the regular season starts. This is my question if we start getting run over in the preseason (which we will get tested against the Ravens, Jets, Steelers, and Titans) will Jerry spend the money on a DT or will he atleast bring Hollis back?

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The run defense will be fine. The pass rush is what people should worry about.

I actually like the option at pass rush we have now. CJ will be starting and has been getting sacks in a part time role. EB is bigger and has more pass rushing moves then JPep. Plus now with the rookies Norwood and Hardy we have pass rush specialist like Al wallace.

But like I was trying too say or ask is if we see some issues on def. in the preseason will Jerry open up the wallet to get some help?

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he never has before, so I don't really think so. He didn't do it last year and we were getting destroyed without kemo.

The FO will look into some players as the cuts start happening but that's it.

I don't really think Brown can do anything better than Peppers at the moment. There isn't a single part of his game I can think of that is better. Maybe his initial burst off of the line but that's a big maybe.

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he never has before, so I don't really think so. He didn't do it last year and we were getting destroyed without kemo.

The FO will look into some players as the cuts start happening but that's it.

I don't really think Brown can do anything better than Peppers at the moment. There isn't a single part of his game I can think of that is better. Maybe his initial burst off of the line but that's a big maybe.

No EB is not better then Pep that's not what I was saying. He has better pass rush moves. Like dipping your shoulder the burn and rip the spin. Pep just used a speed rush or a Bull rush he never really worked on his footwork or developed other pass rush moves. Watching tapes of EB you can see he knows alot more moves too get too the QB. This still doesn't mean he will be better then Pep because other player use more technic and still Pep natural ability is better.

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Our run def. and not too much the sweeps and off tackle plays but the runs up the middle the dives the counters. Pass rush might be a big issues but I like our option there better then the DT situation. I'm not even worried about the Offense. (I maybe more sure about the offense then I've ever been.) Saying this do any of you think that Jerry can open up the wallet a inch and maybe give John Henderson a call? This would give me and alot of you more confidence in this def. One good thing about Preseason is if we see this is going too be a problem we can get somebody before the regular season starts. This is my question if we start getting run over in the preseason (which we will get tested against the Ravens, Jets, Steelers, and Titans) will Jerry spend the money on a DT or will he atleast bring Hollis back?

too late, he signed in the UFL

im worried about our FB area the most.....

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Yeah I agree with KoolKat in that stopping the run middle is going to be an issue next year. Im not really sure how you can think that it's going to be less of a problem then pass def. If teams are ABLE to run on us then they will run on us. They wont bother to toss it up if we cant stop them at the line (well until we bite on the run so hard that there's no one covering).

Im excited to see what we've got in every other phase of the game but that D-line isnt looking like its going to seal any cracks. Of all the people on these forums, Im kind of surprised that more people dont think this is an issue.

To me this would be the #1 thing to look out for next season and hope we pick someone up once the new draftees work their way onto their rosters. It isnt gonna be Henderson, Kat, sorry mang. Jerry has already eluded to not picking any big names up. It'd be nice though. . yep.

Other things to look out for.

#2 WR (crazy that you guys still think DJ can step up and Lafell is a rookie for god's sakes - this is a major fahking problem.)

#3 QB (Matt Moore hasnt played enough for you guys to be making him out to be fahking Montana. Its embarrassing for Panther's fans to say such things in these other threads.)

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We have a lot of young talent, with a good coach to coach them up.

Another thing I don't understand.

Pretty much everybody who knew Meeks, knew that our defensive line that we had (lets be honest, wasn't that great outside of Peppers, and the young guys) wasn't the type of dline that meeks has worked with in the past. Plus, we had an aging dline. We go young, which is something we've been needing to do, and get guys that fit Meeks system more, and now everyone thinks we'll be run over, and have no pass rush.

The Panthers didn't get all these young guys thinking they couldn't play. There is talent on the team. No, there isn't a true veteran outside of Brayton, but give the coaches the chance to get these guys coached up, and playing. As long as they play their assignments, I don't see the big cause for all this doom and gloom regarding the line.

Give them a chance to play, before you label them losers.

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Strength is good, technique is very important. Just ask our center. He isn't the biggest guy, he's actually a lil small for the position, but he is an excellent technician.

That is what Meeks likes. Fast guys who have strength, and good technique. Smaller d-lines do tend to get run on, but that isn't always the case. When the defense executes well as a whole (see Meek's defense the year the Colts won their SB, as it was their defense that carried them there throughout the playoffs), the run defense should still be good.

I can also promise you that John Fox still believes in stopping the run. So that will always be a priority for our defense, regardless of the size, inexperience of our linemen, and the scheme being used.

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