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[SmittysLawnGuy]

6 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

And Pro-day 40 times are always faster. Not the same clock set up.

Exactly, don't trust those one bit!

[tukafan21]

5 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

And Pro-day 40 times are always faster. Not the same clock set up.

Not sure that's really the case, I think it's more because it gives them extra time to practice it, and for something like the 40, even just an extra few weeks can be enough to shave .03-.04 seconds off your time and go from a 4.52 to a 4.48.

As I've said before in why I don't like using 40 times to change opinions of players, unless they also have a track history, starting the 40 needing to come out of a track stance can be very odd for non DL (since that's more or less their starting position in games anyways).  

Even spending the last 2 months working on it, getting an extra few weeks can still help give you a better time and the Top 10-15 type of picks would rather put up one good time than one good and one questionable.

[WhoKnows]

10 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

And Pro-day 40 times are always faster. Not the same clock set up.

Nope, which is why it’s a negative to run only at a pro day. Our own Damiere Byrd ran a 4.28 at his pro day. Funchess ran a 4.7 at the combine and then a 4.5 at Michigan’s pro day. Add 0.2 to any pro day run.

If McMillan was truly fast, he’d run at the combine. Even a 4.5 would have been solid at his size.

[WhoKnows]

53 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

They mark they were looking for was 4.4 sec 40 which is the benchmark for the nfl.

They mentioned the average starting NFL RB was 4.49. Anything in the 4.4-4.49 is considered above average even in the NFL. Low 4.4s and under is really fast. This was a really fast combine but we also knew the RBs were a well above average group this year.

[Shocker]

Coming out of the combine feels like Walker at #8 is a little rich.  The DL talent is too good to pass on IMO.  Looking at this I would love to move down and grab a talented guy and then attack the second round if possible.  

[WhoKnows]

46 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Yea not sure, but it's like I've always said about him, yes it takes him a few strides to really get up to speed, but once he's moving, he's MORE than fast enough to be an elite WR given his size.  The speed he hit at some point during his first 2 years (haven't seen any data from this past season) was I think 20.8 MPH, which would have been I think 8th fastest speed hit in the NFL this past season.

I'm still convinced the people who don't think he has the speed/quickness necessary have only watched his short highlight reels that consist of his craziest contested catches.  As I've also said, he was 5th in the Big 12 in YAC, he's way better after the catch than you'd expect for a player of his size.

It's all a trade off due to his size, you lose the track star immediate speed, but you gain the catch radius that comes with him.

20.8 at a single point doesn’t say anything. They had Golden at above 24 MPH and 3 other WRs at above 23. Coker got over 21 MPH at one point on his long TD and he’s not “fast” overall.

Also, I think there is a certain amount of time you have to spend at that speed For those stats. They had momentary speeds of 25+ MPH on the WR gauntlets and the highest speeds of the NFL are never that high.

[Jon Snow]

5 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

They mentioned the average starting NFL RB was 4.49. Anything in the 4.4-4.49 is considered above average even in the NFL. Low 4.4s and under is really fast. This was a really fast combine but we also knew the RBs were a well above average group this year.

I really liked the drills they put them through. Iwas more impressed with the catches than the 40 times. Some of the qb's helped themselves as well. 

[Shocker]

Honestly I think one of the biggest missed opportunities was TMac dodging the combine.  Red flag for me.  No need to hide.

Someone must have thought that 40 would hurt him

Edited yesterday at 01:09 AM by Shocker

[SmittysLawnGuy]

15 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Nope, which is why it’s a negative to run only at a pro day. Our own Damiere Byrd ran a 4.28 at his pro day. Funchess ran a 4.7 at the combine and then a 4.5 at Michigan’s pro day. Add 0.2 to any pro day run.

If McMillan was truly fast, he’d run at the combine. Even a 4.5 would have been solid at his size.

 

 

[Martin]

12 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Coming out of the combine feels like Walker at #8 is a little rich.  The DL talent is too good to pass on IMO.  Looking at this I would love to move down and grab a talented guy and then attack the second round if possible.  

I’m kind of there as well, he is a little bit smaller than I thought. I still think he’ll be a very good player, but that height makes me a bit hesitant.

[SmittysLawnGuy]

15 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

 

 

32 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Nope, which is why it’s a negative to run only at a pro day. Our own Damiere Byrd ran a 4.28 at his pro day. Funchess ran a 4.7 at the combine and then a 4.5 at Michigan’s pro day. Add 0.2 to any pro day run.

If McMillan was truly fast, he’d run at the combine. Even a 4.5 would have been solid at his size.

 

Took the Nope as you disagreeing with him and then proving his point. Should have started with Exactly. Some of us drink by crackie!

Wait I'm still right how is it a negative to only run at your pro day when it's always faster. Mrs. McMillan will be holding the stop watch. Running at the combine shows the truth vs. BS.

Edited yesterday at 01:27 AM by SmittysLawnGuy

[tukafan21]

30 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Honestly I think one of the biggest missed opportunities was TMac dodging the combine.  Red flag for me.  No need to hide.

Someone must have thought that 40 would hurt him

I didn't even know this until yesterday when I heard T-Mac wasn't doing the combine, but apparently the Big 12 started their own combine last year and it was a huge success. 

And because of it a lot of Big 12 guys skipped the testing at this combine but are planning on doing in in a few weeks at the Big 12's.  I'm not sure exactly why, maybe it has to do with the other story about there being a new field in Indy that some players felt hindered them, maybe it's just to give them a few more weeks to work on the drills to improve their times.

Shedeur, Hunter, and T-Mac are all supposed to be doing the drills and timing at that from what I've read, guess we'll see if that holds up.

[Shocker]

2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I didn't even know this until yesterday when I heard T-Mac wasn't doing the combine, but apparently the Big 12 started their own combine last year and it was a huge success. 

And because of it a lot of Big 12 guys skipped the testing at this combine but are planning on doing in in a few weeks at the Big 12's.  I'm not sure exactly why, maybe it has to do with the other story about there being a new field in Indy that some players felt hindered them, maybe it's just to give them a few more weeks to work on the drills to improve their times.

Shedeur, Hunter, and T-Mac are all supposed to be doing the drills and timing at that from what I've read, guess we'll see if that holds up.

I wasn’t aware of that so thank you for the info.  Regardless, we should see these guys run and showcase before the draft,  especially TMac running a 40.  If he runs in the 4.4s he is top 5.  4.6 is different.  Not to mention he will have no athleticism workout numbers otherwise.   He looks great on film but why hide if you are a top talent.  Probably doesn’t matter for us but I would rather see him run

[tukafan21]

7 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I wasn’t aware of that so thank you for the info.  Regardless, we should see these guys run and showcase before the draft,  especially TMac running a 40.  If he runs in the 4.4s he is top 5.  4.6 is different.  Not to mention he will have no athleticism workout numbers otherwise.   He looks great on film but why hide if you are a top talent.  Probably doesn’t matter for us but I would rather see him run

Again though, it's not hiding, it's just what most projected Top 10 picks do these days, they don't do anything at the combine other than interviews and medical stuff and then do their timings and drills at their Pro Day.

Plus, if he really does the Big 12 one too, that means he'll still do 2 testings between that and his Pro Day, what difference does it make if he does that vs this Combine and the Pro Day like others do?

Let's call it what it is, he's a player our fans know we'll consider and they want his numbers NOW, not a month from now, LOL

And here you go, and with Arizona only joining the conference this year and it only being done once before, I also had no idea this was a thing until last night when I saw he wasn't going to be doing the drills today

https://big12sports.com/news/2025/2/27/football-big-12-pro-day-returns-to-the-star-in-frisco.aspx

 

Edited yesterday at 01:57 AM by tukafan21