Underwear Olympics coming next week

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think there is a guy at that position in that class of bust. 

Richardson has strong Jamarcus Russell vibes. I will never understand how people were fooled by him.

I will say at QB Cam Ward is a little scary. He leans gunslinger, so the bust risk is just naturally higher, although his physical abilities are clearly the best in this draft at QB.

It all came down to the interviews for Richardson IMO. His Florida tape was hard to breakdown because the receivers were so damn bad dropping balls all over the place. He threw the ball a lot better than his stats looked. But I can't imagine how he would've interviewed well.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

I meant more of a guy that jumped up the draft for no reason other than physical traits. Agree that I never wanted AR here, and I didn't understand the hype.

Cam Ward has had top-pick chatter about him all year so that is different to me.

IMO, Carter. I just do not buy into him at all. I do realize I am at risk of looking foolish but I just do not see the hype OTHER than physical traits. He seems like a poor man's Brian Burns, TBQH.

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

IMO, Carter. I just do not buy into him at all. I do realize I am at risk of looking foolish but I just do not see the hype OTHER than physical traits. He seems like a poor man's Brian Burns, TBQH.

We won't have to worry about him because he'll be gone anyways. I didn't watch much PSU this year. Did he look apathetic or was he a master of the whiffed sack like Burns?

[kungfoodude]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

It all came down to the interviews for Richardson IMO. His Florida tape was hard to breakdown because the receivers were so damn bad dropping balls all over the place. He threw the ball a lot better than his stats looked. But I can't imagine how he would've interviewed well.

I disagree generally. He was SOOOOOO bad on tape. His misses were by a country mile, much like they are in the NFL. You couldn't possibly drop enough balls to justify a sub-55% completion percentage especially when that has historically been a fairly decent indicator of lack of NFL success(as in, rarely do you get MORE accurate in the NFL). 

Richardson seemed like a Cam Newton/Kyle Boller hybrid to me.

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

I meant more of a guy that jumped up the draft for no reason other than physical traits. Agree that I never wanted AR here, and I didn't understand the hype.

Cam Ward has had top-pick chatter about him all year so that is different to me.

I think one or more of these second tier edge rushers is going to have a stellar combine. James Pearce Jr. is my best guess.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I disagree generally. He was SOOOOOO bad on tape. His misses were by a country mile, much like they are in the NFL. You couldn't possibly drop enough balls to justify a sub-55% completion percentage especially when that has historically been a fairly decent indicator of lack of NFL success(as in, rarely do you get MORE accurate in the NFL). 

Richardson seemed like a Cam Newton/Kyle Boller hybrid to me.

Watch the Kentucky game. He was 14/35 with 0 TDs and 2 INTs but watch the game.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

We won't have to worry about him because he'll be gone anyways. I didn't watch much PSU this year. Did he look apathetic or was he a master of the whiffed sack like Burns?

TBH, he is kind of a one year wonder(natural red flag) and his skill level has never even this past year matched his production. He was also a very "sugar or poo" guy. Either he was dominant or he was nonexistent.

It's a little tough because Penn St. has such a crazy history of guys being busts or being utilized completely differently than their NFL fit.

He just scares me a lot and I really, really want nothing to do with him at #8. Give me him as a trade down at 15-32, brother I am all in.

[jbland]

6 hours ago, NAS said:

Also known as the Combine - Feb 27 - Mar 2

Are you going to watch more closely this year than before, any specific players positions you want to watch?

I may actually tune in to watch the Edge and Defensive Line positions and maybe some late round Wideouts.  

Title is misleading. I was hoping for something else.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Watch the Kentucky game. He was 14/35 with 0 TDs and 2 INTs but watch the game.

I know but I am talking the whole totality. It's just...bad. Look, the physical skills still pop even at the NFL level. The throws he can make are absolutely bananas. But....he makes them too infrequently and the other decisions are so insanely bad.

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think one or more of these second tier edge rushers is going to have a stellar combine. James Pearce Jr. is my best guess.

My fear is literally we fall in love with a guy like this. This is my nightmare. Even Carter is excusable but Pearce is not better than the next 10 guys at EDGE, IMO.

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

My fear is literally we fall in love with a guy like this. This is my nightmare. Even Carter is excusable but Pearce is not better than the next 10 guys at EDGE, IMO.

It's why I really hope that we at least entertain trading down. There's a big cluster of guys at DT and edge who are likely going in the first three rounds that I can understand arguments of having them ranked however anyone wants to sort them out.

[LinvilleGorge]

Now the Carter comparisons to Burns i just cannot see at all. Carter plays with a lot more power than Burns ever did. Burns was always a pure finesse speed rusher. I'm not saying he'll be a Von Miller level NFL player but his playing style is a lot more reminiscent of Miller's than Burns.

[PNW_PantherMan]

25 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I know but I am talking the whole totality. It's just...bad. Look, the physical skills still pop even at the NFL level. The throws he can make are absolutely bananas. But....he makes them too infrequently and the other decisions are so insanely bad.

I see a lot of similarities with Cam Ward.  Even though Cam is a more polished passer coming out of school.  Not saying a lot compared to AR, who's maybe the rawest QB prospect drafted that high ever.

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's why I really hope that we at least entertain trading down. There's a big cluster of guys at DT and edge who are likely going in the first three rounds that I can understand arguments of having them ranked however anyone wants to sort them out.

Dude, this class is so loaded at DE and EDGE it would be CRIMINAL to not trade down provided one of the big boys doesn't drop.

I want three picks in the top 60. Period.