Savion Williams - Potential OLB?

[ECHornet]

6’5, 225 running a 4.45 forty

Played all over for TCU’s offense. WR/RB/Wildcat. 
 

Watch his highlights:

Imagine that agility being used against offensive tackles. He would have elite ball skills for an OLB in pass coverage too. He plays physical and I could see him switch over with ease since he’s shown his versatility.

If he can tackle, he might be just as good as Abdul Carter off the edge and potentially available in the late 2nd, early 3rd. He has the frame to be 6’5, 250 in short order imo.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by ECHornet

[MHS831]

If I were going to make a decision like this anywhere during days 1 or 2 of the draft, I would make sure that my resume was current before anything else.  I would then take a look at the measures one looks for in an elite DE--not 40 time, but 3 cone, 10 yard splits, etc.  and compare those numbers to the elites.  I would watch film for physicality and then I would interview the player.  Moving a player from the position he has been grooming himself for in preparation to be drafted at that position can be demoralizing if he is assigned a totally new position.  I see where you are and why you are thinking this way, but in my opinion, there is no way Morgan drafts a project of this magnitude. At edge, there is a lot of technical, mechanical stuff that must be perfected that does not fall under the category of natural ability.  Much too risky in a draft where we need home runs.  I might add that a player like this who is an UDFA may be willing to undergo this transformation to find a roster spot after serving on the PS for a year, but that is unlikely-not saying your idea is illogical or impossible, I am just sharing my opinion.

Edited 7 hours ago by MHS831

[pantherclaw]

13 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

If I were going to make a decision like this anywhere during days 1 or 2 of the draft, I would make sure that my resume was current before anything else.  I would then take a look at the measures one looks for in an elite DE--not 40 time, but 3 cone, 10 yard splits, etc.  and compare those numbers to the elites.  I would watch film for physicality and then I would interview the player.  Moving a player from the position he has been grooming himself for in preparation to be drafted at that position can be demoralizing if he is assigned a totally new position.  I see where you are and why you are thinking this way, but in my opinion, there is no way Morgan drafts a project of this magnitude. At edge, there is a lot of technical, mechanical stuff that must be perfected that does not fall under the category of natural ability.  Much too risky in a draft where we need home runs.  I might add that a player like this who is an UDFA may be willing to undergo this transformation to find a roster spot after serving on the PS for a year, but that is unlikely-not saying your idea is illogical or impossible, I am just sharing my opinion.

Completely agree. 

[ECHornet]

14 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

If I were going to make a decision like this anywhere during days 1 or 2 of the draft, I would make sure that my resume was current before anything else.  I would then take a look at the measures one looks for in an elite DE--not 40 time, but 3 cone, 10 yard splits, etc.  and compare those numbers to the elites.  I would watch film for physicality and then I would interview the player.  Moving a player from the position he has been grooming himself for in preparation to be drafted at that position can be demoralizing if he is assigned a totally new position.  I see where you are and why you are thinking this way, but in my opinion, there is no way Morgan drafts a project of this magnitude. At edge, there is a lot of technical, mechanical stuff that must be perfected that does not fall under the category of natural ability.  Much too risky in a draft where we need home runs.  I might add that a player like this who is an UDFA may be willing to undergo this transformation to find a roster spot after serving on the PS for a year, but that is unlikely-not saying your idea is illogical or impossible, I am just sharing my opinion.

I get it. 
 

I don’t have his agility testing numbers or 10yd splits, but we will after the combine hopefully. I’d be willing to bet his would be elite when compared to other OLBs, except for maybe strength testing due to playing WR. That’s the easiest to change. In contrast, I think his athletic numbers, while impressive for a WR his size, will not be elite compared to other WRs. 
 

Obviously, it would have to be approved by Williams in talks prior to the draft. In reviewing his film and draft projections, it looked like he’ll be a mid-late Day 2 pick. I’m thinking we could sell him on the idea we project him to be an elite (Top 5) OLB by year 2-3. He will likely never get that position ranking at WR. 

Edited 7 hours ago by ECHornet

[CarolinaLivin]

The only position change project that would make sense to me right now is Jalen Milroe at RB.

Regardless IMO this is a prove it draft for Morgan and I don't think he can afford to make these kind of project selections. Definitely a prove it year for Evero, I believe he is on last year of his contract and needs to prove it was a talent issue and not a talent + scheme issue. 

[ECHornet]

If he’s sitting there at our 3.10 pick, I’m hoping we give it a try. Let him learn and add the necessary weight to replace one of Wonnum or Clowney in 2026. 

[ECHornet]

7 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

The only position change project that would make sense to me right now is Jalen Milroe at RB.

Regardless IMO this is a prove it draft for Morgan and I don't think he can afford to make these kind of project selections. Definitely a prove it year for Evero, I believe he is on last year of his contract and needs to prove it was a talent issue and not a talent + scheme issue. 

OLBs and WRs get paid in the same ballpark. Much harder to convince a QB to switch to RB with those salary and career longevity differences. 

[MHS831]

19 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

I get it. 
 

I don’t have his agility testing numbers or 10yd splits, but we will after the combine hopefully. I’d be willing to bet his would be elite when compared to other OLBs, except for maybe strength testing due to playing WR. That’s the easiest to change. In contrast, I think his athletic numbers, while impressive for a WR his size, will not be elite compared to other WRs. 
 

Obviously, it would have to be approved by Williams in talks prior to the draft. In reviewing his film and draft projections, it looked like he’ll be a mid-late Day 2 pick. I’m thinking we could sell him on the idea we project him to be an elite (Top 5) OLB by year 2-3. He will likely never get that position ranking at WR. 

I LOVE "outside the box" thinking, so keep em coming.  thanks for this

[CarolinaLivin]

4 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

OLBs and WRs get paid in the same ballpark. Much harder to convince a QB to switch to RB with those salary and career longevity differences. 

Well, for sure I don't see it happening. Although the selling point is actually playing in year 1, 2 vs. developing for some years and maybe seeing the field as a QB in year 3-4 if the stars align. I'm just saying I see a more seamless transition as far as his skillset. Regardless I don't want us to take this kind of a project. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Drafting a college offensive jackknife to try him out as a pass rusher? That's UDFA type stuff. Like when we tried to turn a college DT into an OT with Nate Chandler. That's how those experiments tend to go. Well, not exactly. In well run organizations those types of experiments happen on the practice squad not starting at RT protecting a #1 overall draft pick.

[theinstrumental]

Wait for the combine before making any plans based on measurements. Word is he’s going to come in way below 6’5”. If he changes positions it’s going to be to RB.

[Stingray3030]

Very interesting take - not sure I have ever heard someone suggest this with a Day 2 prospect.  Who knows - it could work.

But this guy as an offensive weapon might be special in the NFL.  He is not only fast, he is super quick and shifty.  He reminds me of Cordarrelle Patterson only much quicker.  If he really learns the WR position he could be a nightmare in the slot, wildcat, jet sweeps, KR.  I would be very happy to get him in the late 2nd or early 3rd RD.

[Mistuh Jones]

I mean it kinda worked for Shaq

[Tr3ach]

2 minutes ago, Mistuh Jones said:

I mean it kinda worked for Shaq

Shaq played both ways in college.  More on defense and then a bit on offense.