Who Has to Be Off the Board to Trade Back?

[45catfan]

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

If there’s not much difference in moving back a couple spots, finding a good offer might be an issue.

It seems the Cowboys have a boner for Jeanty.  Maybe we can get them to bite with the illusion of him being the target for us.

[PNW_PantherMan]

Our spot could potentially be trade bait for taking Tyler Warren.  He’s mocked around where we pick or slightly after.  A team may want to leap frog the Saints to get him.

[MHS831]

Just now, 45catfan said:

It seems the Cowboys have a boner for Jeanty.  Maybe we can get them to bite with the illusion of him being the target for us.

DIdn't they want Brooks too?

 

7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Johnson seems to be beneficiary of a seemingly weak CB class, certainly top echelon ones.  Granted I haven't dove into the draft as much this season as prior years, but I have yet to see glowing reviews for him.  Stated like this, would he be a top 10 CB in a stacked CB class?  Similar to the QBs this draft, Sanders and Ward would have been second round selections in last years QB class.

And WR class, which is why I backed off on TMac.  I read that he would have been 4th overall WR taken last year---stuck in my head.

[toldozer]

I don't think anyone is trading up unless someone falls in love with the 3rd qb and thinks the saints are going to take them.  Assuming that would be milroe having a killer combine. To me I'd rather stay at 8 and let the saints reach for a qb instead of trading back to 18 for the seahawks or 21 to the steelers

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Our spot could potentially be trade bait for taking Tyler Warren.  He’s mocked around where we pick or slightly after.  A team may want to leap frog the Saints to get him.

On the flip side, if we trade back 4,5, or 6 spots and he's still on the board, I'm down to draft him.  I'm not against a Rd1 TE, just not in the top 10.

[MHS831]

Just now, toldozer said:

I don't think anyone is trading up unless someone falls in love with the 3rd qb and thinks the saints are going to take them.  Assuming that would be milroe having a killer combine. To me I'd rather stay at 8 and let the saints reach for a qb instead of trading back to 18 for the seahawks or 21 to the steelers

I think Baltimore, KC, Miami, LA Rams, and a few others will want one of the top 2 OTs and they get ripe around the back of the top 10.  We shall see.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, toldozer said:

I don't think anyone is trading up unless someone falls in love with the 3rd qb and thinks the saints are going to take them.  Assuming that would be milroe having a killer combine. To me I'd rather stay at 8 and let the saints reach for a qb instead of trading back to 18 for the seahawks or 21 to the steelers

It would be ideal if Jaxson Dart could scam some team into thinking he’s worth a top 10 pick.

[panthers55]

It is always how far back and what compensation. When you trade back let's say five spots you have to assume that none of those picks matters and you can find equivalent talent later.  Then again if you meet your needs  in free agency you have a lot more flexibility to avoid reaching.

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

DIdn't they want Brooks too?

 

And WR class, which is why I backed off on TMac.  I read that he would have been 4th overall WR taken last year---stuck in my head.

Yes, they did want Brooks and that's why we moved up to stick it to them.  Well, we stuck it to ourselves in typical Panthers fashion.  They are wanting their next generation Zeke. A proven bell cow on a rookie deal so they can pay their other stars.

As far as T-Mac goes, stud WRs are game changers.  That WR class last year was so loaded that he while would have gone later than Harrison Jr., Nabers and perhaps Odunze, the first two were considered can't miss prospects.  That's not a knock on T-Mac as much as how sure-fire talents the top two guys were.

[frankw]

Personally I'm done with the "trade a quarter for 2 dimes and a nickel" Fitterer logic so I say stay put and take a top prospect regardless. No matter how the top 7 picks play out there will be a damn good player available and we should take that player based on the fact we have needs across the board.

[PNW_PantherMan]

8 minutes ago, frankw said:

Personally I'm done with the "trade a quarter for 2 dimes and a nickel" Fitterer logic so I say stay put and take a top prospect regardless. No matter how the top 7 picks play out there will be a damn good player available and we should take that player based on the fact we have needs across the board.

I feel the same.  Worst case I’m taking Warren and not feeling bad about it.

[45catfan]

20 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

It would be ideal if Jaxson Dart could scam some team into thinking he’s worth a top 10 pick.

He's got to have one heck of a Combine and Pro Day.  As of now, he's seemingly overtaken Ewers for QB3, but not enough to jump all the way to the first round, let alone the top 10.  My gut tells me a team like the Raiders or Saints will jump on him at the top of the second round.  The only team at the back of the first round possibly needing a QB is Pittsburgh, that's if they don't keep Fields or Wilson.

Edited yesterday at 09:13 PM by 45catfan

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

He's got to have one heck of a Combine and Pro Day.  As of now, he's seemingly overtaken Ewers for QB3, but not enough to jump all the way to the first round, let alone the top 10.  My gut tells me a team like Raiders or Saints will jump on him at the top of the second round.  The only team at the back to the first round possibly needing a QB is Pittsburgh, that's if they don't keep Fields or Wilson.

JJ McCarthy pulled it off.  It can be done.

[Waldo]

It would take someone shooting up the boards to change my mind but the guys I want us to take early should be gone by 8 so I'm hoping for a trade back. Getting an extra pick in the top 100 picks would also be a bigger win than an offensive pick or CB at 8 IMO.