Legette. Wrist surgery?

[Johnstonny]

22 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Look at the worst teams in the league. Pretty much all of them are going to be poor drafters. The draft is by far a team's best opportunity to add talent for good value. Sure, you can find the occasional gem in free agency who excels in a new system better suited to his strengths but for the most part you're going to have to pay market value for veteran talent. If you fail year after year to add talent to your roster with cap friendly deals you're screwed and that's a very tough row to hoe in free agency as Dave Gettleman found out. He was really feeling himself striking gold on the cheap in free agency his first year here then came up with no gold and just a bunch of rocks in subsequent years which is usually what you're buying on the cheap in FA.

Year 2 under Morgan... wasn't remotely enamored with the high round picks this past draft which should be immediate contributors. Jury still out on XL... he has to nail it this time or I'll be calling for his head. Our 3rd 4th round picks should be challenging for a starting spot to make a team better. Talent evaluators to match talent to positional needs is crucial.

[mrcompletely11]

39 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Agree

id like to know but it seems the Panthers PR is not talking and the press isn’t asking  

i would’ve had him in surgery the day after the season ended 

these lingering injuries don’t get better with time…even if it delays his raccoon hunting 

Dan and DC both have pressers this week.   I bet we find out then. 

[kungfoodude]

58 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Dan and DC both have pressers this week.   I bet we find out then. 

I hope we have some idea about general offseason direction after that. 

[Johnstonny]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Dan and DC both have pressers this week.   I bet we find out then. 

If he comes out with the low hangin slurp lip...ima be pissed.

[jfra78]

8 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

If he comes out with the low hangin slurp lip...ima be pissed.

I doubt they will ever be able to get over you being pissed

[Basbear]

5 hours ago, Icege said:

Thank you for the good faith back and forth.

Are there some things that users here have rallied against that they proved to be right on? Absolutely. Has the Tepper era been successful? Far from it, but let's be honest: anybody expecting there to not be growing pains just isn't living in reality. An individual with no background in professional sports takes over the team, spends the first year working on the business side of the house, and then pivots to football ops where he makes two back-to-back awful coaching hires. Like... this isn't exactly breaking news to anybody with basic critical thinking skills.

If we look at the hiring decisions though, we don't see the same mistakes being made. We see them being learned from. Tepper went the Jimmy Johnson/Pete Carroll route and went for somebody that had successfully built college programs and thought they'd be able to do it in the NFL. Rhule and his crew though just couldn't get away with their usual plan of recruiting the best athletes to compete in year 3, especially when the league is full of those top guys already (it also didn't help that they basically acted like a glorified frat house according to reports).

The Reich hire was a sprint in the opposite direction. We went from little-to-no NFL experience to SO MUCH NFL EXPERIENCE... but there was also a distinct lack of unity that even the Rhule staff had. Too many cooks started arguing over the recipe and the ingredients, factions formed, and the poo all rolled downhill. Tepper doesn't wait until the middle of year three though to pull the plug, he ripped it out midseason. This is continued evidence of learning on Tepper's behalf.

Now the latest staff... Tepper stepped back and outsourced the hiring (as many fans demanded). Canales was brought in and so far I believe it's fair to say that we've got more hope than we ever had since the takeover. They went with a young offensive mind with prior success in turning two QBs' careers around, let him build his staff with his folks, and allowed them the freedom to make the decisions they needed to make (ie: benching Bryce). For an owner that was excoriated for being too meddlesome, that's a huge shift.

Does understanding the nuance in situations between these different hires mean that I don't think the Teppers have done anything wrong or that I agree with every decision they made? I can't see how anyone can jump to that conclusion unless they're a dipshit that still blames drafting Bryce on Nicole hugging him... I just prefer to try and understand the thought process instead of being focused on why I "knew" otherwise. It makes it that much easier to be prepared for what comes next when we're not making predictions on how we're going to be miserable.

All of that said... as much trust and faith I have in myself, I still wouldn't recommend putting me in that room over Dan Morgan and Brandt Tilis. That'd be insane... but the scary part about that is that it immediately makes me more qualified than most other Huddlers.

I'd be okay with ForJimmy, Mr. Scot, and Bear Hands... but those other spots are gonna be tough to fill.

 

I read it all and will again cause my skills lack there big time. Big fan of yours and my guy Kung Fu, enjoy many of the huddlers, agree or disagree on many topics and beliefs.

I have defended tepper PLENTY when the current "thing" was to blindly hate on him, plenty of proof me doing this (AND plenty of proof blasting him too.) -

 

I've been in stressful jobs and being the GM of NFL team would cause heaps more, but at least I wouldn't be shot at.... That job is super long hours and non-stop problem solving during the season. I do have good traits and even a "superpower" or two that would aid in doing that job. I'd need more more information before I could decide, for sure I would hire a team of talent evaluators to make make the job 10x easily. Like Scot McCloughan to help guide the process, among others with teppers money..... I mean Marty "gave me" herniay went from typing articles to on Panthers staff two(?) years to GM. Matt Millen is another story form the booth to top president and GM. Jeff Saturday became a HC without any exp.

Would I want the huddle hive to be GMing or myself with hired army/roninor rando fans form section 317?? no sir!!! But the key is the bar is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo low that those options would have yielded better results in building a winning team over the rhule/herniay/fittterererere/(not ready to put Morgan here) era. Thats very sad and hurt my fandom soul during the last 6 years..

[CPcavedweller]

On 2/16/2025 at 2:17 PM, jb2288 said:

I imagine there is a good reason for it but between Brooks waiting a long time for his ACL surgery and whatever is going on here, it does seem weird. XL needs the jugs more than anyone on the team, if this wrist thing holds him out until TC that’s pretty bad. XL could be a #1 if he learns to stop body cradling everything, but that takes a ton ton ton of reps 

I could go do jugs for two years and never be an NFL receiver. That's not the issue. He likely could use some micro spatial awareness and reaction time training away from football. 

[jfra78]

I think it got in his head, his drops got worse after everyone started pointing it out

 

[Icege]

Morgan just stated during his press conference that XL didn't need surgery on the wrist but did have a short-term foot procedure.

Edited 5 hours ago by Icege

[mrcompletely11]

Is anyone elses audio totally screwed up?

[Jon Snow]

26 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Is anyone elses audio totally screwed up?

I was able to listen to it.

[jb2288]

4 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

I could go do jugs for two years and never be an NFL receiver. That's not the issue. He likely could use some micro spatial awareness and reaction time training away from football. 

Disagree. He reminds me so much of Curtis Samuel with his drops. That dude worked his ass off in the off season and ended up one of our more reliable hands WR his contract year before he left. 

[Basbear]

I still can not believe so many are upset at XL. My brothers in Christ, he was rookie drafted 32nd. Please give him some time to get better!!