Tetairoa McMillan

[tukafan21]

17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Poor QB play and obviously being by far and away his team's offensive #1 threat definitely meant good opposing defenses could dedicate a lot of resources towards him.

Honestly, I'm not even stumping for drafting the guy. I'm just saying he's a significantly better prospect than the Drake London comp. If you want to say he's lesser than Mike Williams, I'm cool with that. Honestly, yeah I'd have him ranked below him as a prospect myself. I just think he's closer to Williams as a prospect than London.

Thank you

People can say what they want about him as a prospect, opinions vary and I take no issue with that.  It's when people ignore things like this when talking about statistics that get to me.

Arizona's leading recieving yards this year after T-Mac were... 323, 245, 217, 196, 196, 172, and 109 with 2 of the 3 guys over 200 yards being a TE and RB as is.

Texas A&M's other leading receiving yards in Evans final year... 818, 658, 626, 240, and 210, with all 5 of them being WRs to take defensive attention away from Evans.

There was not only zero fear by other teams about the other weapons, they straight up dared Arizona to beat them by leaving them open to double and triple team T-Mac constantly.  And even then, those players, the QB, and play calling was so poor that they not only couldn't take advantage of that, but T-Mac was still good enough to finish 4th in the nation in yards (prior to bowl games) and I think only fell one or two spots if you just entirely removed his 300 yard game anyways.

Edited 13 hours ago by tukafan21

[tukafan21]

9 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Broken plays and bad coverage vs weak opponents

Nope, but try again

[tukafan21]

55 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I don't care what his 40 says, he looks slow when he plays and Evans doesn't 

Oh yea, I also forgot about this one I posted a few days ago.

If Evans plays fast but T-Mac doesn't, why is the fastest Evans' has been clocked at in a game 20.6 MPH while T-Mac has been clocked at 21.8 MPH?

[flagfootballcoach28]

45 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Broken plays and bad coverage vs weak opponents

Burden played against a handful of weak opponents too. I don’t see him going for 300+. T-Mac just has the “it” factor. It’s hard to explain. I felt the exact opposite about XL last draft and it’s turning out to be true. 

Edited 12 hours ago by flagfootballcoach28

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

Broken plays and bad coverage vs weak opponents

That was honestly a big part of Mike Williams' gaudy stats his final year. Johnny Football back there doing Johnny Football things running around like a madman extending plays and turning practically every passing play into a scramble drill. Good luck covering Mike Williams with college DBs in that situation.

[tukafan21]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That was honestly a big part of Mike Williams' gaudy stats his final year. Johnny Football back there doing Johnny Football things running around like a madman extending plays and turning practically every passing play into a scramble drill. Good luck covering Mike Williams with college DBs in that situation.

First, you keep saying Mike Williams... you mean Evans, lol

But second, if this is true, it would be really ironic given T-Mac also excelled on making plays on the scramble drill with his QB as they've played together since 8th grade, they do that well together.

The difference is those plays generally didn't end up in much YAC for T-Mac, as he was either coming back to the ball to find a hole in the traffic to make the catch and go down for the first, or they were throws towards the sideline where he was making the play while just keeping his feet in bounds.

[LinvilleGorge]

Yeah, I do that poo sometimes. I'm fuging awful with names. It's some sort of mental block or something.

[Aussie Tank]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I do that poo sometimes. I'm fuging awful with names. It's some sort of mental block or something.

To be fair Williams coming out of Clemson was probably a better prospect than TMac. But until they hit the NFL field who knows 

[Verge]

18 hours ago, ncfan said:

What guys do you have in that “elite defensive guys” tier

Carter 
Hunter 
Graham 
Walker 
Johnson 

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, Verge said:

Carter 
Hunter 
Graham 
Walker 
Johnson 

One of those will be available when we pick

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Verge said:

Carter 
Hunter 
Graham 
Walker 
Johnson 

I would like to know if Walker is going to market himself as an edge or hybrid ILB? It is easy to say Micah Parsons and move on, but we are talking Evero here--has anyone heard anything or are we assuming Walker is a LB who can move to edge etc. like MP?  It is hard to give him value if we don't really know where he will play--he is small for an edge, imo, but that is his best spot--any opinions?

[Aussie Tank]

17 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I would like to know if Walker is going to market himself as an edge or hybrid ILB? It is easy to say Micah Parsons and move on, but we are talking Evero here--has anyone heard anything or are we assuming Walker is a LB who can move to edge etc. like MP?  It is hard to give him value if we don't really know where he will play--he is small for an edge, imo, but that is his best spot--any opinions?

I don't see him as elite. Very good but not elite. If we're taking him to play edge I'd rather Pearce Jnr or Green 

[MHS831]

38 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I don't see him as elite. Very good but not elite. If we're taking him to play edge I'd rather Pearce Jnr or Green 

I can always count on you being up, Aussie, when nobody else is here!!  Yeah, that is my problem--a tweener for a first round pick and a system that may not know how to use him. 

[micnificent28]

41 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I don't see him as elite. Very good but not elite. If we're taking him to play edge I'd rather Pearce Jnr or Green 

 

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

I can always count on you being up, Aussie, when nobody else is here!!  Yeah, that is my problem--a tweener for a first round pick and a system that may not know how to use him. 

I agree with both these takes.. walker doesn't have the production nor the solidified position to be talked about as a blue chip prospect in this draft. He's a very good player.. but elite? Why? Where?