Josh Norris: Panthers-Garrett Wilson trade options

[jfra78]

7 minutes ago, Wood228 said:

Well duh dude..... My point was that we didnt need to add weapons. We needed the help up front. Imagine if Cam ever had a decent O-line.

You can't compare a team led by Cam with a team led by Bryce.  Bryce gets the ball to the weapons and Cam is the weapon, plus OL was our strength last year

[TheSpecialJuan]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

3 seasons, 3 straight 1000+ seasons. You might not get a top 10 for him but he is easily worth a first round pick. 

Garrett Wilson is a much better WR than any wideout in this draft class. 

[Waldo]

43 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

On the flip side he is a proven #1 WR with 1 year left on rookie deal and a 5th year option.  He is only 24 and if you are going to spend the money why not on a young guy who can give 6-8 years

Depends. Are we talking a contender with that need or a team picking in the top 10 consistently? Because he is still a WR so that helps very little with the bigger issues the Panthers are facing which also includes a general lack of talent especially on the other side of the ball and cap space.

Also he isn't getting traded for 1 pick if he is a true #1 at 24. So how many picks and how do they fill out the roster with out the picks or any cap space? I don't have issues with trades but I'm not interested in seeing them draft a WR early let alone trade for one. Hell I wish they would have done that before trading up for XL.

 

 

 

[tukafan21]

49 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Garrett Wilson is a much better WR than any wideout in this draft class. 

Wrong

He might be better than T-Mac as of Week 1 of this year as it's a 4th year #1 WR vs a rookie, but within a year or so, T-Mac >> Wilson, no doubt in my mind about that.

There is only 1 instance I'd be okay trading #8 for Wilson, and that's if T-Mac is drafted before we're on the clock.  As if we make that trade and T-Mac falls to 8 (or 7 since the Jets would have both those picks), the Jets would take him and in a couple years we'll just look back on that in anger as they'll have the better WR than we will, and they'll have had him on his rookie deal while we'll have given Wilson a huge extension.

Edited 1 hour ago by tukafan21

[jfra78]

38 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Wrong

He might be better than T-Mac as of Week 1 of this year as it's a 4th year #1 WR vs a rookie, but within a year or so, T-Mac >> Wilson, no doubt in my mind about that.

There is only 1 instance I'd be okay trading #8 for Wilson, and that's if T-Mac is drafted before we're on the clock.  As if we make that trade and T-Mac falls to 8 (or 7 since the Jets would have both those picks), the Jets would take him and in a couple years we'll just look back on that in anger as they'll have the better WR than we will, and they'll have had him on his rookie deal while we'll have given Wilson a huge extension.

Your love for Tmac is clouding your judgment.

[tukafan21]

14 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Your love for Tmac is clouding your judgment.

No it's not, Wilson is a great WR, but he's not a true Top 5 potential type of elite WR like some on here seem to think.  

Yes, he has over 1k in each of his 3 seasons, but he also hasn't missed any games and has only just barely cracked the number in each season, the most yards he's had is 1,104, which is only a 65 yard per game average.  He has a total of 9 games of 100 yards or more, out of 51 games, with only 1 of those games being over 115 yards.  He's also not really that much of a redzone threat because of his size, and he only has 14 TDs over his 3 seasons.

In his 3 seasons he's been 13th, 14th, and 22nd in the league in receiving yards, and again, that's without missing any games, he falls further down the list if you go by yards per game.  Great WR, a #1 WR, no doubt about it, but he's more of a 12-15ish best WR in the league than a true Top 10 guy.

Just T-Mac's red zone ability alone will make him a better WR weapon to have in this league than Wilson, as he's going to be a 10 or more TD type of guy per season.

If the team who has had him in their building for 3 years would trade him and then take T-Mac (assuming he's still there), wouldn't that alone tell you that the Jets think higher of T-Mac than Wilson?

Edited 39 minutes ago by tukafan21

[TheSpecialJuan]

We would essentially be selecting Garrett Wilson (a 3x 1k yards and proven big time WR) at #8 and Jets would throw in their 4th rounder this year. Wilson would be under control for 2 years ('26 would be his 5th year option) I might just do it 

Edited 33 minutes ago by TheSpecialJuan

[tukafan21]

Just now, TheSpecialJuan said:

We would essentially be selecting Garrett Wilson (a 3x 1k yards and proven big time WR) at #8 and Jets would throw in their 4th rounder this year. Wilson would be under control for 2 years (next year would be his 5th year option) I might just do it 

Or, you take a player with a much higher ceiling than Wilson, while having them on a rookie contract control for 5 years.

Again, I'm not against trading the 8th pick for Wilson, but under no circumstances can that trade be made before knowing if T-Mac is there when on the clock.  If he gets drafted before 7 when the Jets are on the clock, then sure, go ahead and make the trade.  But if he's there at 7 and they haven't traded Wilson, they're not taking T-Mac, so just sit pat and take the player with the higher upside and longer rookie contract control.

[Soul Rebel]

Wilson > Tet or any WR in this draft class now and more than likely in the future. Wilson is about to hit that level-up year that we've seen good WRs elevate to great WRs. 

GW will be a top-8 WR in the league and I'd give up #8 for his skillset alongside 17 & 18. Zero risk vs. some risk with whoever we draft at 8. Complete the offense with a true #1 for Bryce.

Fix the defense in FA and move up in R2. We would have three 4th rounders to move around and/or add depth.