Patrick Willis gets 5 year, $50 mil extension

[Brooklyn Bully]

Beason, Davis, Williams, Stewart, Kalil, Otah, Gross, Moore/Clausen...talk about a headache for Hurney. And lots of those contracts end in the not too distant future I think.

[panthers55]

Beason, Davis, Williams, Stewart, Kalil, Otah, Gross, Moore/Clausen...talk about a headache for Hurney. And lots of those contracts end in the not too distant future I think.

Add that if we resign them all we are looking at likely 100 million dollars of signing bonuses or more and I suspect we let several of them go. I really doubt Richardson will spend that kind of money and if this year's experiment works it will set the mark for the future. Keep them as a rookie and let them go for someone cheaper at the end of that time.

[Kurb]

Gross just got a contract.

I don't see how we can afford to NOT resign the majority of them.

[rayzor]

creative cap management can work all these guys in and give them what they are due.

just because you can't envision it doesn't mean it can't be done.

all the salaries that we just lost will make it a lot more feasible.

[thefuzz]

Probably about time for Smith to move around some dollars if he wants to keep Kalil and Williams, not to mention Otah and a couple of more years Clausen/Moore.

[KSpan]

I really doubt Richardson will spend that kind of money and if this year's experiment works it will set the mark for the future.

Do not concur. The "experiment" this year happens to be loaded with talent. JR has never been cheap for the sake of being cheap - they just got burned last year by putting the money in the wrong places. If the talent deserves the money, at least most of them will be paid, epecially if they're stand up guys like this bunch.

[Ricky Spanish]

is there a way to give the gauranteed money to players on alternating years and not at the begining of their contracts? I'd do that if i were the panthers. give deangelo like 8 million the first year then down to 5 the next, kalil like 4 the first year, then 7 the next, etc etc...

all those numbers are random by the way, just trying to see if it's possible to do that.

[scpanther22]

Beason will get a 5 year $45-47 million deal. This sets a benchmark.. Beason knows he will not get paid more than Willis.. this is actually very good news for Hurney and the Carolina Panthers. Expect Beason to get his deal done before the season starts.

As far as how this effects Thomas Davis.. it's doesn't really. Lance Briggs contract a couple year's ago probably has more impact on Davis' situation than Beason's contract. Lance Briggs was more highly regarded than Davis is now, especially with Davis coming off a ACL surgery.

But, for comparative purposes, Briggs got a 6-yr $36 million deal in 2008. Davis contract will be slightly less than that. We are probably looking at Davis in the $30 million range for 6 years which would average $5 million per season..

4-3 OLB's simply do not get paid well because they are easy to replace. Keep in mind, Will Witherspoon signed for a 6-yr $33 million deal with the rams when he left carolina a few years back. I think Davis is in line for a $30 million deal coming off his surgery.

I think Demeco ryans deal is 5 years at 48 million. I except Beason to get a higher deal than that but lower than Willis maybe even the same because hurney is not shy about paying to keep talent here.

[scpanther22]

Beason isn't worth 10 mil a year. He can be replaced in the draft by a much cheaper alternative.***

*** actually, MLB aren't worth 10 mil a year. Willis only got that because he is the face of the 49ers.

your getting a lot of hate for this post..lol

But I happen to agree..People need to keep in mind Willis and Beason will not be getting 10million a year.like how Haynesworth is not realy getting 100 million..its just the way the contract looks to us

[pantherfan49]

Dumbest post i've seen on the huddle in a while. And that is saying a lot.

Dumb would be giving up 9-10% of the expected salary cap in 2011 or 2012 to a MLB.

Let's not forget that Fox has been able to slide several players over into the MLB slot throughout his time and get good production of out- Morgan, Spoon, Draft, and now Beason.

I would rather take my chances on a young player on a cheaper contract than chewing up 10% of the Panther's cap space on Beason and that isn't an indictment of Beason.

[pantherfan49]

your getting a lot of hate for this post..lol

But I happen to agree..People need to keep in mind Willis and Beason will not be getting 10million a year.like how Haynesworth is not realy getting 100 million..its just the way the contract looks to us

Yes that is an important point, however, the contracts being dished out this year are heavy with guaranteed money and low on salary because of the 30% rule.

In the past, 100 million, might have meant 40 mil in guarantees and 60 mil in funny money on the tail end of the deal that the player would never see. With the current CBA rules, I am not so sure that this is the case with this year's contracts.

[carpanfan96]

More then likely Willis got something around 20 million guaranteed this season alone in bonuses and probably another 5-10 million over the rest of the contract in guaranteed money.

[Phil Dees]

More then likely Willis got something around 20 million guaranteed this season alone in bonuses and probably another 5-10 million over the rest of the contract in guaranteed money.

5/4/2010: Signed a seven-year, $53.51 million contract. The deal contains $29 million guaranteed, including $11 million in the first year and $23 million in the first two seasons. 2010: $760,000, 2011: $2.75 million, 2012-2016: Under Contract, 2017: Free Agent

http://www.rotoworld.com/CONTENT/playerpages/player_contract.aspx?sport=NFl&id=4171

[Dpantherman]

Posted by Mike Florio on May 4, 2010 9:59 PM ET

When word broke earlier today (courtesy of Jay Glazer of FOX) that 49ers linebacker Patrick Willis had signed a five-year, $50 million extension, we immediately considered the much-discussed (but rarely understood) 30-percent rule, which severely limits the raises that can be paid to players with existing contracts in an uncapped year.

Under contract for two more years, the 49ers needed to find a way to pay Willis without dumping too much money into a first-year signing bonus.

They did it by giving him a relatively manageable signing bonus of $15.5 million, along with a second signing bonus (technically known as a "supersede signing bonus") of $4.8 million in 2011. Basically, a new contract kicks in next year, with a new signing bonus. And none of the money counts against the 30-percent rule.

Other teams have used the supersede signing bonus, primarily in rookie deals. It provides a vehicle for dealing with the CBA ruling that prevents teams from recovering any portion of an option bonus. If the second balloon payment is a signing bonus, it's subject to full or partial prorated recovery if the player holds out or retires.

Here's the catch, as it relates to Willis. The $4.8 million is guaranteed for injury only, in order to permit the 49ers to avoid the requirement of fully funding the payment now.

Our initial reaction to this news was to wonder whether the same device could be used to allow the Titans to re-sign running back Chris Johnson to a deal that he deems acceptable. The problem is that, because Johnson's cap number is significantly lower that Willis's, even more money would have to be dumped into the signing bonus and the supersede signing bonus. And teams are reluctant to commit so much money to players, even if the supersede signing bonus is guaranteed for injury only.

So, in other words, the supersede signing bonus likely won't provide an easy answer to the contractual conundrum that the Titans are facing with Chris Johnson.

Meanwhile, check back tomorrow morning for a comprehensive look at the pros and cons of the Patrick Willis deal. It fairly can be described as a deal worth less than what Willis could have or should have gotten. Under the circumstances, however, it also fairly can be characterized as a strong contract.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/04/patrick-willis-deal-uses-two-signing-bonuses-to-circumvent-30-percent-rule/