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Pete Carroll to Raiders per Fox


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5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Not following the logic of this.   Unless the raiders are in complete disarray and need an adult to get things back to square 1

that's exactly it. being reported its a 3 year contract, he prob is there for 3 years to right the culture then retire

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41 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Not following the logic of this.   Unless the raiders are in complete disarray and need an adult to get things back to square 1

The reports were the same there as in New England. The inexperience of both coaches was so evident that the owners knew they had to move on immediately. The big things were scheduling and preparation were so inadequate, once you paired that with terrible in game decisions, and losses it was a wrap. Hence, now you have two grown ups in both places. The Raiders were looking for and elder statesman though for sure with the options in their search. 

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What is curious about this is the fact that the Raiders don't have a QB. 

I would say that Pete Carroll is the kind of coach I would love to play for.   I have a few friends who were former NFL and college players and we discussed what coach we'd like to play for (about a year or so ago)--and coaches we'd not like.  All based on outsider's perspective (a few had some weak connections to the grapevine), which is usually not the same as an insider.

Popular coaches mentioned:  Andy Reid, Pete Carroll, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, DeMeco Ryans, Dan Campbell.

Unpopular coaches mentioned:  Sean McVay, Doug Pederson, Mike McDaniel, Jim Harbaugh--Josh McDaniels and Jon Gruden came up as well. 

Understand, this was from a player's perspective and a few knew some of the coaches as assistants back when they played.  Mostly positive or mixed. 

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58 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

What is curious about this is the fact that the Raiders don't have a QB. 

I would say that Pete Carroll is the kind of coach I would love to play for.   I have a few friends who were former NFL and college players and we discussed what coach we'd like to play for (about a year or so ago)--and coaches we'd not like.  All based on outsider's perspective (a few had some weak connections to the grapevine), which is usually not the same as an insider.

Popular coaches mentioned:  Andy Reid, Pete Carroll, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, DeMeco Ryans, Dan Campbell.

Unpopular coaches mentioned:  Sean McVay, Doug Pederson, Mike McDaniel, Jim Harbaugh--Josh McDaniels and Jon Gruden came up as well. 

Understand, this was from a player's perspective and a few knew some of the coaches as assistants back when they played.  Mostly positive or mixed. 

I'm surprised to see McVay in the unpopular list.

He seems like a coach who is liked by his players, he's an elite offensive mind, and he's won a SB, why is he in that list?

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16 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I'm surprised to see McVay in the unpopular list.

He seems like a coach who is liked by his players, he's an elite offensive mind, and he's won a SB, why is he in that list?

Have you ever worked for someone that was good at their job but tough to work for?  It can happen.

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3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Have you ever worked for someone that was good at their job but tough to work for?  It can happen.

100%

But those other guys on the unpopular list have histories/stories of things that make people question them as a HC and/or why people wouldn't want to play with them.

I'd never heard of anything like that with McVay, which is why I was surprised he was on the list and asking why he'd be on that side of the ledger.

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Just now, tukafan21 said:

100%

But those other guys on the unpopular list have histories/stories of things that make people question them as a HC and/or why people wouldn't want to play with them.

I'd never heard of anything like that with McVay, which is why I was surprised he was on the list and asking why he'd be on that side of the ledger.

I bet Bill Belichick would be on that list too.  It seemed like a lot of players just put up with his approach because they were winning.  Sometimes the coach you need isn't the one you want.  That's why you need a coach if you think about it.

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