Skins release DT Anthony Montgomery...

[CRA]

OK, if a shitty 3rd stringer has similar stats as our starters, what does that say?

well, I think the Skin actually has better production than our starters the past 2 seasons.

that our starters are more likely backup depth material than 1st string....we just hope that isn't true.

[capfolly]

Sorry you guys, were right about the sacks. Read it wrong. But he can still be a good player against the run.

[CatMan72]

I realize we're still several months out from the season, but after watching Ed Johnson this weekend I think we're in the market for another DT. If we signed Montgomery, it's pretty safe to assume he and Louis Leonard would be our starting DT's.

[rayzor]

Even at $1.176 million the panthers prob feel he will cost to much..

don't think we'd have to pick that up since he was waived. still won't be too far off from what he would probably make for a year.

He would be worth the money. Who even knows if Ed Johnson is gonna be able to make it. We want players that are motivated.

true here. i doubt that ed johnson is going to be sticking around but one thing i have heard about montgomery is his lack of ambition. not sure he would be an upgrade there.

QFT.

Leonard and Montgomery would give us a pair of big bodies in the middle like Fox likes. Meeks can have the secondary, but I'd prefer us build our line in Fox's mold.

that just isn't the direction that they are going. we have probably seen the last of the big NT types here for a while unless they have some speed to them and can corrupt the pocket. i don't see us going after a big run stuffer.

i like the idea of the mountain DTs in front of the Mike (and i'm sure beason does as well) but i don't see that happening. if it works...awesome. i just have to see it to believe it will.

[CatMan72]

don't think we'd have to pick that up since he was waived. still won't be too far off from what he would probably make for a year.true here. i doubt that ed johnson is going to be sticking around but one thing i have heard about montgomery is his lack of ambition. not sure he would be an upgrade there.that just isn't the direction that they are going. we have probably seen the last of the big NT types here for a while unless they have some speed to them and can corrupt the pocket. i don't see us going after a big run stuffer.

i like the idea of the mountain DTs in front of the Mike (and i'm sure beason does as well) but i don't see that happening. if it works...awesome. i just have to see it to believe it will.

I would agree, except we brought in Hollis Thomas last year and had pretty good success with him. Meeks has a scheme, but he's also going to do what works and if it becomes evident that we don't have the right personnel he's going to go get the right personnel.

[rayzor]

I would agree, except we brought in Hollis Thomas last year and had pretty good success with him. Meeks has a scheme, but he's also going to do what works and if it becomes evident that we don't have the right personnel he's going to go get the right personnel.

they were going and getting as many DTs as they could find since they were dropping like flies. i don't think they were concerned with the size as much as they were that he could fill a spot on the roster. they lucked out with him.

seems this year they are making a much more concerted effort to make the team fast and agile...especially on defense fitting to meeks idea of having a piranha-like defense that is always swarming to the ball. like i said, unless he is a fast NT he probably won't be on the roster.

one thing of interest...up until last season there were many who thought of the DC position as a fox puppet and that they were going to run the same scheme regardless of who had the job. didn't really see that happen and i don't see anyone making that assertion anymore.

[CRA]

they were going and getting as many DTs as they could find since they were dropping like flies. i don't think they were concerned with the size as much as they were that he could fill a spot on the roster. they lucked out with him.

seems this year they are making a much more concerted effort to make the team fast and agile...especially on defense fitting to meeks idea of having a piranha-like defense that is always swarming to the ball. like i said, unless he is a fast NT he probably won't be on the roster.

one thing of interest...up until last season there were many who thought of the DC position as a fox puppet and that they were going to run the same scheme regardless of who had the job. didn't really see that happen and i don't see anyone making that assertion anymore.

Well, some would argue Fox/Meeks aren't dictating the type players Carolina is getting/releasing for this season. Harris wasn't let go b/c of Meeks' system. Also, I doubt we parted was w/ all our DTs b/c of Meeks' "system". The moves likely more about cost savings and youth for post Fox (and that would likely mean post Meeks).

[CatMan72]

they were going and getting as many DTs as they could find since they were dropping like flies. i don't think they were concerned with the size as much as they were that he could fill a spot on the roster. they lucked out with him.

seems this year they are making a much more concerted effort to make the team fast and agile...especially on defense fitting to meeks idea of having a piranha-like defense that is always swarming to the ball. like i said, unless he is a fast NT he probably won't be on the roster.

one thing of interest...up until last season there were many who thought of the DC position as a fox puppet and that they were going to run the same scheme regardless of who had the job. didn't really see that happen and i don't see anyone making that assertion anymore.

It's true that we signed Hollis Thomas to compensate for injuries, but we were also getting ran all over at that point and we brought in a player like Hollis to plug up the middle.

[ncbobcat]

PLEASE!!!! I know his stats aren't great, but DTs typically don't generate eye-popping numbers. We just need ONE MORE wide body besides Leonard.

There is enough low end talent at DT to make room for this guy. But as someone alluded to earlier, it would make too much sense.

If we were to get one more experienced, run-stuffing DT, i would feel much better.

[rayzor]

i don't think the releases had much to do with meeks system but the selection of new players will fit it.

[CatMan72]

The decision about whether or not to bring in Montgomery will come down to $. If we can fit him into our lockout budget then I think we'll be interested.

[ncbobcat]

The decision about whether or not to bring in Montgomery will come down to $. If we can fit him into our lockout budget then I think we'll be interested.

I agree and disagree. Agree on the "budget", Fox has even said so. The guy got cut so, I don't think he can ask for too much.

I disagree that the FO will even look at him because in a snipet I read somewhere, part of the youth movement is molding players into the Panthers' scheme and not re-teaching FA players from other systems.

[CatMan72]

I agree and disagree. Agree on the "budget", Fox has even said so. The guy got cut so, I don't think he can ask for too much.

I disagree that the FO will even look at him because in a snipet I read somewhere, part of the youth movement is molding players into the Panthers' scheme and not re-teaching FA players from other systems.

While I suspect there is some truth behind it, I think the thing about molding players is mostly an attempt to put a positive spin on all the veteran releases/trades/etc.

[rayzor]

I agree and disagree. Agree on the "budget", Fox has even said so. The guy got cut so, I don't think he can ask for too much.

I disagree that the FO will even look at him because in a snipet I read somewhere, part of the youth movement is molding players into the Panthers' scheme and not re-teaching FA players from other systems.

i agree with this.

While I suspect there is some truth behind it, I think the thing about molding players is mostly an attempt to put a positive spin on all the veteran releases/trades/etc.

not sure about that. i mean, you might be right with that but i think that they are trying o build the team to fit that faster style on both sides of the ball...not really smashmouth anymore. more like a slash and gash type of football.

there were probably mainly financial reasons for most of the releases but what they are deciding to fill the vacancies with more fit what ncbobcat said. they are looking for players that they can mold into that new system.