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PFF Update Rankings - Notable ED shifts


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The draft season shakeups are starting to begin on ranking boards. PFF now has 7 ED ranked in the first round. Albeit that’s relative to this draft class, not necessarily 1st round grades.

https://www.pff.com/draft/big-board?season=2025
 

Notable:

Position/Overall Ranking/Name

1/2 Abdul Carter

2/9 James Pearce (somewhat surprised)

3/11 Mike Green (surprise, high climber)

4/18 Mykel Williams (fell)

5/20 Shemar Stewart

6/22 Jack Sawyer (climbing)

7/25 Nic Scourton (fell)

8/33 Donovan Ezeiruaku (climber)

9/38 Landon Jackson

10/39 Princely Umanmielen (surprise/slight fall, but high upside)

11/44 JT Tuimoloau (personally, I like him for us R2)

 

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Sawyer is not worth 22..  He is benefiting from the NFL superstars who are white and play LDE--Bosa, Crosby, Watt--etc.  And he made a good play last week.  I do niot see much of difference/dropoff with his teammate, JT Tuimoloau. 

I am starting to warm up to Jalon Walker as a LB who can pressure the passer as an edge.  Get creative.

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We really need to hope for both Ward and Sanders to go top 7. I think there’s a chance only Ward goes 

I also hope McMillan goes top 7 but there will be better players on the defensive side of the ball available 

Carter, Walker, Graham, Johnson and Hunter probably all off board by 8

Pearce is probably next man up. If Evero gets his way it will be Starks 

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2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

We really need to hope for both Ward and Sanders to go top 7. I think there’s a chance only Ward goes 

I also hope McMillan goes top 7 but there will be better players on the defensive side of the ball available 

Carter, Walker, Graham, Johnson and Hunter probably all off board by 8

Pearce is probably next man up. If Evero gets his way it will be Starks 

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3 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

We really need to hope for both Ward and Sanders to go top 7. I think there’s a chance only Ward goes 

I also hope McMillan goes top 7 but there will be better players on the defensive side of the ball available 

Carter, Walker, Graham, Johnson and Hunter probably all off board by 8

Pearce is probably next man up. If Evero gets his way it will be Starks 

My biggest knock on Evero so far is that blown 3rd rounder on DJ Johnson(but I guess that’s better than a 2nd on an injured RB)

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3 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

If we could trade down  and get Green I'd be quite happy

Mike Green and I like really like Walter Nolan as well

I understand everyone wants to trade down if you think you can get someone 6-8 picks later and collect another pick and thats great but we’re so devoid of talent that I don’t care about getting cute. Draft good football players and don’t get caught up on where you take them. If you end up drafting solid contributors no one cares where you drafted them. 

This draft is so important for us. We can’t miss on prospects. So if you love Mike Green and he turns out to be who you think he is then 8 is not too high 

Most couldn’t believe the Lions took Gibbs so high 2 years ago. I’m sure no one is complaining about that now

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8 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Sawyer is not worth 22..  He is benefiting from the NFL superstars who are white and play LDE--Bosa, Crosby, Watt--etc.  And he made a good play last week.  I do niot see much of difference/dropoff with his teammate, JT Tuimoloau. 

I am starting to warm up to Jalon Walker as a LB who can pressure the passer as an edge.  Get creative.

Yeah I should have noted they aren’t listing Walker as an Edge defender on their site but he can totally play there as well as offball.

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Just started my armchair scouting this week with the EDGE guys.

Not very impressed with Mykel Williams, was disappointed that JT Tuimoloau seemed to decline a bit from last season, and was impressed with Jack Sawyer's motor but he reminds me of YGM with better hand-fighting. To be fair to all of them, I've got only two games each reviewed so far.

Abdul Carter is a freak.

I'm very eager to dive into the Mike Green film. Got a feeling that he's long gone by the time the Panthers get to make their second selection (whether or not they trade up) but going to hold on to hope!

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All I know is the roster is so bad, they need to come away with at least 3 day 1 starters.

no more ‘a wishin and a hoping’ a player will be what they are not based on potential 

that roster can’t afford that luxury 

just my two cents…particularly when the defense isn’t just bad…it is the worst in NFL history in points allowed and Im Sure in the sieve category against the run

still shocked they kept Evero

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14 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

We really need to hope for both Ward and Sanders to go top 7. I think there’s a chance only Ward goes 

I also hope McMillan goes top 7 but there will be better players on the defensive side of the ball available 

Carter, Walker, Graham, Johnson and Hunter probably all off board by 8

Pearce is probably next man up. If Evero gets his way it will be Starks 

I have read various perspectives, some with Sanders going mid round, but I think there will be 2 QBs going in the top 5.  With the exception of the Kenny Pickett year, most years QBs creep up boards the closer we get to April.  This is going to sound crazy, but I could see will Howard going in round 1.  How you perform on the biggest stage carries a lot of weight.  Depending on what Rodgers decides in his Oregon black hole of meditation, it is possible that only Jax and NE (picking before us) do not need a QB--five of seven teams.  How do you not take Sanders if he is sitting there? Someone will bite.  Furthermore, Jalen Milroe reminds me of Anthony Richardson who was drafted fairly early, and Quinn Ewers reminds me of Bo Nix.  All it takes is one team (see Pickett, Kenny).  Howard's stock is about to explode--I think he goes round 1--I could see a team like the Raiders, Colts, or Steelers taking Howard.  Once the chips start getting pushed to the center of the table, people will overpay.

 

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