Whats with all the Clausen hate??!!

[jramsey4]

What I don't understand is why do people think Fox is all of the sudden going to start playing a Rookie at QB? What in his history makes that seem even remotely plausible? This is Matt's job to lose.

[DirtyMagic97]

I have no problem with Clausen starting if he is the better player. But I do not think he is going to be the better player for a while. It's hard to look at just stats. The kid throws off his back foot often, and when he does step up and deliver he gets so low to the ground. I got sick and tired of seeing batted balls when Jake was QB, and I see the same thing happening with Clausen unless he stands upright when he drives off his back foot.

With all that said, I think Jimmy is one of the most prepared QB's coming out of college this year, because what is listed above can be fixed with hard work, and he has time to fix it. One thing that may not be fixable is his attitude and lack of leadership. But I guess time will tell.

[The Don]

I have no problem with Clausen starting if he is the better player. But I do not think he is going to be the better player for a while. It's hard to look at just stats. The kid throws off his back foot often, and when he does step up and deliver he gets so low to the ground. I got sick and tired of seeing batted balls when Jake was QB, and I see the same thing happening with Clausen unless he stands upright when he drives off his back foot.

With all that said, I think Jimmy is one of the most prepared QB's coming out of college this year, because what is listed above can be fixed with hard work, and he has time to fix it. One thing that may not be fixable is his attitude and lack of leadership. But I guess time will tell.

he throws off his back foot because he didn't have an O-line at Notre Dame. listen people, John Fox is going to play whoever plays better in the preseason, period. the guy is in a "lame-duck" year, or so some would say (this, i highly disbelieve), and he needs to win. whichever QB can win games for him, that's who starts. no, Fox doesn't seem like the type of coach to start a rookie at QB... but we've already seen the unthinkable happen when they drafted Clausen at #48. and i'm not totally against it, even though i love Matt Moore under center... Matt Ryan took the Falcons to the playoffs a year ago... Mark Sanchez took the Jets to the AFC Championship game... with our running game, we could be unstoppable. and just imagine, what if Lafell becomes that other guy we've been lacking and Clausen does step up to be the franchise QB that we've all been waiting for....... who cares about Moore by this point? he's a man, he'll pick his balls up off the floor and will find a new job somewhere else... don't forget that 60% of this game is business.

[Miaoww]

I actually think unless Moore blows in the pre-season and Clausen looks like an all-pro the job is his.

Fox loves his vets - it's Moore's job to lose at this moment in time.

[CRA]

carolina fans bitching that we picked up a franchise QB... never thought i'd see this day

Is Brady Quinn a franchise QB?

Clausen is just a kid who played college ball, until he proves something I think people should go ahead and stop w/ this franchise talk......for all we know the franchise QB is Moore or Pike.

[CRA]

Fox will start whoever he feels the team likes and wants to start...Fox has no loyalty to Moore.

[Miaoww]

I don't think Fox likes Moore, but he also probably doesn't want to throw a rookie QB straight in there if he can avoid it.

[DirtyMagic97]

he throws off his back foot because he didn't have an O-line at Notre Dame.

He throws off his back foot regardless of pressure. He under-threw a lot of receivers in college, but his teammates bailed him out by coming back and getting the ball. He doesn't do it all the time, but he does do it when it is completely unnecessary.

[Miaoww]

He was playing with a torn tendon in his right toe. Dude couldn't push off his plant foot for the last 7 games.

[The Don]

He was playing with a torn tendon in his right toe. Dude couldn't push off his plant foot for the last 7 games.

any guy that can play through pain is a winner in my book. i was behind Moore up until now, and i still want Moore to win the job, but if Clausen is better, i won't be disappointed or sad should Fox put Clausen in over Moore!!! QB battles are awesome thread discussions for the off season man, we should've had a QB battle years ago.

[DirtyMagic97]

He was playing with a torn tendon in his right toe. Dude couldn't push off his plant foot for the last 7 games.

You are right. But it's been a habitual thing since he has been at Notre Dame that a lot of people have noticed. He improved upon it from last year to this year, which is why he improved statistically, but he still did it from the start.

[methodtoll]

Some people on this board didn't realize that behind Moore, we had little depth at QB and more people were concern over finding a WR. I kept warning people not to sleep on a QB in the 2nd round but yet most people kept overlooking the position because all they wanted was a receiver. Now that we drafted a QB, people are still acting as if we need a top tier receiver.

By the way, I also mentioned that there would be depth at WR in the later rounds. LaFell is the perfect for us because he provides the run blocking, possession receiver that we need. I also believe that Gettis is going to be better then what most are making him out to be and while Edwards needs works, I think he could be a good 3rd receiver.

I am also not giving up on Dywane Jarrett. I think him and LaFell will compete for that #2 spot.

[panthers55]

I agree with the OP. There is no reason to disike picking up Clausen, Pike, and Edwards. It wasn't an indictment of Moore as much as deciding to load up on young talent rather than keep older veterans. And this is consistent with what we have done at just about every position.

If Moore is the best guy, he will start. If he isn't he won't. I certainly don't feel sorry for him. I would trade his paycheck with mine in a heartbeat. And if he has a good year in 2010, his future paycheacks will dwarf this years by 10s of millions of dollars.

[HSCBandit07]

Some people on this board didn't realize that behind Moore, we had little depth at QB and more people were concern over finding a WR. I kept warning people not to sleep on a QB in the 2nd round but yet most people kept overlooking the position because all they wanted was a receiver. Now that we drafted a QB, people are still acting as if we need a top tier receiver.

By the way, I also mentioned that there would be depth at WR in the later rounds. LaFell is the perfect for us because he provides the run blocking, possession receiver that we need. I also believe that Gettis is going to be better then what most are making him out to be and while Edwards needs works, I think he could be a good 3rd receiver.

I am also not giving up on Dywane Jarrett. I think him and LaFell will compete for that #2 spot.

Yes, I don't understand why people are complaining so much. I love Matt Moore but I am super excited we have enough talent/promise at the QB level this year to actually warrant a TC battle based on talent and not a starter super sucking.

What I don't agree with is LaFell being ready to start in the NFL. He was scouted as a project receiver due to his catching, route running, and getting off the jam. He and Jarrett are probably even as far as ability coming into training camp. He can run block better than Jarrett but I don't see too much more in his favor.