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Jerry Jones crazy or smart?

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14 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

If you watch much ESPN and NFL network, you would think they spend 25% of coverage on one team--Dallas.  Even during the draft, Jerry takes the full time on the clock when nobody is on the phones.  He sets up his draft room like some dictator's banquet hall.  He does stuff to get his team on TV--in other words.  Now, Deion put Colorado on the map and he dominated the headlines in college football for a team in the top 20--barely.  He is not a great coach; he recruited through the portal and talked 25 players or so to transfer. 

For Jerry, it is not about the game of football; it is about the show of football.  Yes, he'd like to win, but his ego gets in the way. 

If he lucks out and this move is successful, he looks like a genius--if it fails, he blames his coach.  I think Jones would do this--

The problem with it isn't about it being successful or failing, it's what happens if they BOTH happen?

What does Jerry do if Shedeur is amazing but Deion is an awful coach, or if Deion is an amazing coach but Shedeur is shitting the bed and it's clear very fast that he needs to be replaced?

You're tied to them both and if you need to replace one, you are going to need to replace both as there's no way you can get rid of one while the other one stays.  If you cut/trade Shedeur, Deion is going to quit.  If you fire Deion, Shedeur is going to hold out and demand a trade.

And these days, how many coaches are able to stick around for 10+ years with one team like you hope the QB you draft will be there?

It's almost like the best case scenario for them is that they do well for a few years and when you have to fire Deion to bring in a real NFL HC, Shedeur is good enough to get you a good return in a trade.

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9 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

I just googled it and yes, the Cowboys are still currently the most valuable team in the world, and by a decent amount, they're worth $10.1 Billion while #2 is the Warriors at $8.8 Billion.

Also seeing the list, how the fug are the Rams the 3rd most valuable sports team in the world?

I get why the Cowboys got there in the 90's, but I'm shocked they're still #1 on that list, they seem less relevant than ever.

The rams play in LA where 10 mil people live - it’s the largest market in the country.  It doesn’t hurt that they won a Super Bowl recently.  

Theres nothing east about Dallas but Jones has wielded his power with the nfl  to make sure his team is in a division with rivals that have some of the largest market shares in the nfl and play in the best prime time spots.  They are always in the spotlight for better or worse.  He makes moves like this that are absurd football wise but media wise pay huge dividends.  Hes great at keeping the brand relevant.  He bought the team for 140 mil and now it’s worth over 10 bil.  I hate the cowboys and even more their fans but you gotta give the guy his due… Jerry Jones is a brilliant marketing strategist.  

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9 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

I just googled it and yes, the Cowboys are still currently the most valuable team in the world, and by a decent amount, they're worth $10.1 Billion while #2 is the Warriors at $8.8 Billion.

Also seeing the list, how the fug are the Rams the 3rd most valuable sports team in the world?

I get why the Cowboys got there in the 90's, but I'm shocked they're still #1 on that list, they seem less relevant than ever.

Then why is there a thread on a Panthers fan forum about them? lol 

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12 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Not enough to make it worth it as they’d still need to move up again.

Cant see how they’d make it worth our while when they’re only 4 spots behind us already, they’d be better off just loading up an offer to move all the way up to where they need to get

I would be surprised if Sanders goes before 8. There's talk that he may not go in the 1st at all. Dallas can probably get him without moving up but Jerry doesn't need to know that.

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9 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

The problem with it isn't about it being successful or failing, it's what happens if they BOTH happen?

What does Jerry do if Shedeur is amazing but Deion is an awful coach, or if Deion is an amazing coach but Shedeur is shitting the bed and it's clear very fast that he needs to be replaced?

You're tied to them both and if you need to replace one, you are going to need to replace both as there's no way you can get rid of one while the other one stays.  If you cut/trade Shedeur, Deion is going to quit.  If you fire Deion, Shedeur is going to hold out and demand a trade.

And these days, how many coaches are able to stick around for 10+ years with one team like you hope the QB you draft will be there?

It's almost like the best case scenario for them is that they do well for a few years and when you have to fire Deion to bring in a real NFL HC, Shedeur is good enough to get you a good return in a trade.

Great points--the Cowboys are as close to reality TV as I have seen, and that seems fine with Jerry.  He wants to win, but I wonder if the distractions are just to keep people watching.

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Teams aren't going to want to take Dak's awful contract.  They definitely aren't going to get any value back by trading him.  Not this offseason especially.   No way a team gives a first for the opportunity to take that giant contract for a qb that is a little above average.  I believe the Dallas offense statistically was better overall with Rush in at qb and they won more games.

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13 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

I just googled it and yes, the Cowboys are still currently the most valuable team in the world, and by a decent amount, they're worth $10.1 Billion while #2 is the Warriors at $8.8 Billion.

Also seeing the list, how the fug are the Rams the 3rd most valuable sports team in the world?

I get why the Cowboys got there in the 90's, but I'm shocked they're still #1 on that list, they seem less relevant than ever.

On the open market it would fetch way more then that I would imagine just on brand alone.  Problem is there are only a handful of people in the world that could afford that

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