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We have to be getting a new NT right?

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34 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Why doesn't Evero like the prototypical 3-4 NT?   You know, the 330+ pounder in the mold of a Sumo wrestler.

probably because they are not as scheme diverse. you have to take them out on passing downs. His scheme seems to favor being in base alot and not alo t of blitzing. 

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Just now, carolinanimal said:

probably because they are not as scheme diverse. you have to take them out on passing downs. His scheme seems to favor being in base alot and not alo t of blitzing. 

I feel like his scheme works best vs. pass happy offenses, but we are back to heavy running and I just don’t see his scheme working as well going forward. Just look at the Broncos in the playoffs, they could do nothing against the run.

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2 hours ago, BeenPounding said:

Derek Brown, Mason Grahm/Deone Walker, Ashaun Robinson

Solved.

 

I'm still on team trade back to late teens and pick up an additional 2nd round pick.  I'll take Jalon Walker as an Edge along with Dani-Dennis Sutton.

Dani Dennis Sutton returning for his senior year.

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2 hours ago, Panic said:

Fantastic thread, Thank You. Unfortunately Tuttle was a bust this season and not having Derrick Brown hurt. Asking a rookie to play starting NT in the NFL is not real successful. Milton Williams from the Eagles would be a nice option. 

If we sign Milton Williams I would literally poo my pants with excitement, my dream FA signing.

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1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

Why doesn't Evero like the prototypical 3-4 NT?   You know, the 330+ pounder in the mold of a Sumo wrestler.

It's not particularly popular among 3=4 defenses now. Look around the top defenses depth charts. The 3-4 comprises most of the top defenses and most use smallish NT. The eagles don't even use Jordan Davis in the middle. The Chargers NT is 5'11 310.

Odd but that's the trend 

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3 hours ago, thunderraiden said:

Free Agents NTs: I'm hoping we get DJ Jones and bring him home.

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We have to be getting one of these guys right? RIGHT? I Know they "claim" EJ "likes" undersized NTs for his scheme but I'm more apt to believe that Tuttle was just the best they could get with all the dead money and EJ was just saying he could scheme with an undersized NT not that he prefers it. In what world would you "prefer" your 3-4 to not have a traditional NT? Makes no sense to me but I feel it is honestly the biggest weakness on the team, moreso than Edge or #1 WR but getting one of these NT's in FA fixes it.

For reference this is Shy Tuttle PFF: image.thumb.png.3eb61b8668ad2599a1218535722b2124.png

DJ Jones PFF:

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Similar stats but twice the run defender at the same position. Would help a lot.

DJ Jones makes $10M AAV Shy Tuttle... $9.4M AAV, he has GOT to go. Cutting Tuttle would save $6.5M on the cap, then go pay what you have to to a real NT so we can stop the run next year.

I’d be happy with Jones or Hill. Either of those guys would pair nicely with Brown and Robinson. Javon Hargrove could be another option, as he’s sure to be a cap casualty after a brief stint with the 49ers.

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14 minutes ago, Martin said:

Which teams currently run a 3-4 with an undersized NT and does it well?

All the top defenses are 3-4 and use undersize NT. I'm not saying all but look at defenses ranked then look at depth charts.

Chargers for 1

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1 hour ago, BeenPounding said:

Damn.... I guess I'm banging the table for Ashton Gillotte as my mid-round EDGE draft crush. 

As a Penn State fan I could not be happier, Dani is a DAWG. Will be a first rounder next year. If you like Dani as a prospect I think you would love Jared Ivey, he is a big 6 ft 6 285 DE, great run defender and has a true bull rush aspect to his game. Needs to add some tools to his pass rush belt but I think he’s gonna play in the league for a while.

 

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