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Jackie Lee
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3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Not to intervene--sometimes we can get pulled or pushed on here and it shifts from the Panthers to each other--but I respect both of your opinions--maybe some common ground, where you are 95% of the time?  I am out--just a thought.

I appreciate the input. This stems from him taking offense to valid opinions I've expressed about Bryce Young to digging up posts about Sam Darnold and using that as a resource to argue why we should give Bryce Young more time to prove himself. The issue is I've never argued against that and I am fully aware and eager to see what Bryce does in his third season. But unfortunately for him he picked one of the worst examples as Sam Darnold has once again revealed himself to be the same QB he always was and past criticism of his play has only been further validated despite his attempts to call people out over it. Now he doesn't like the shoe being on the other foot.

Anywho again thanks for attempting to bring some reason. It's all good either way it's the offseason we've got nothing but time.

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1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

He didn't just fumble the bag. He put that ish in a cardboard box. Put the box in a coffin. Then incinerated that bich!

It's crazy that like 3 months ago he was looking like he would play his way into a sizable free agent contract this offseason, now he might be near untouchable

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