Jack Sawyer

[Hoenheim]

I'd imagine any of those playoff teams in the late 1st would be very interested.  It's not going to be like last year when you had McConkey, Pearsall, Legette, Worthy, AD Mitchell, and K. Coleman lurking around near the end of the round at WR, not alot of great wrs in this class. Last year was an anomaly in how much offense went off the board in R1.

And that was after BTJ, Neighbors, Odunze, and Harrison JR had already been picked.

This class is just weak at QB and WR where last year was much stronger. This class is more about defenders and RBs vs qbs and wrs

Edited 2 hours ago by Hoenheim

[MHS831]

I liked Sawyer when he was a second rounder, but not in the first.  I think he has limitations, but he is a dawg. Not sure he will ever be that 12 sack guy, but you will get 6 and he will hold the edge, imo.  I am afraid this game will inflate his stock. 

I think this draft is pretty even from about pick 12 through the second round--not a huge dropoff--the play may be to trade back and get 3 players instead of staying at #8 and getting another pick at #54 or so. 

I think we are going to need 2 DL, 1 edge, 1 CB, 1 LB, and maybe 2 Safeties. Not sure if we are keeping Clowney and/or Wonnum-as much as it hurts our cap, we probably should.

[Hoenheim]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I liked Sawyer when he was a second rounder, but not in the first.  I think he has limitations, but he is a dawg. Not sure he will ever be that 12 sack guy, but you will get 6 and he will hold the edge, imo.  I am afraid this game will inflate his stock. 

I think this draft is pretty even from about pick 12 through the second round--not a huge dropoff--the play may be to trade back and get 3 players instead of staying at #8 and getting another pick at #54 or so. 

I think we are going to need 2 DL, 1 edge, 1 CB, 1 LB, and maybe 2 Safeties. Not sure if we are keeping Clowney and/or Wonnum-as much as it hurts our cap, we probably should.

Trading down from 8 in a draft without premium offensive talent is going to be difficult imo. We traditionally don't move from 8 and stick and pick, ala Horn (8), Brown (7), CMC (8), Kuechly (9)

[Navy_football]

6 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I liked Sawyer when he was a second rounder, but not in the first.  I think he has limitations, but he is a dawg. Not sure he will ever be that 12 sack guy, but you will get 6 and he will hold the edge, imo.  I am afraid this game will inflate his stock. 

I think this draft is pretty even from about pick 12 through the second round--not a huge dropoff--the play may be to trade back and get 3 players instead of staying at #8 and getting another pick at #54 or so. 

I think we are going to need 2 DL, 1 edge, 1 CB, 1 LB, and maybe 2 Safeties. Not sure if we are keeping Clowney and/or Wonnum-as much as it hurts our cap, we probably should.

Need to address pass rusher and safety in FA as well as draft. Can't expect rookies to  come in and have an immediate impact. Having Derrick Brown back will help a lot, but another defense like last year is not acceptable. 

[ChuckWag78]

18 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

His workouts would have to be pretty bad for him to make it to us in the 2nd. I think he probably goes in the late 1st/early 2nd range.

They will be. As much as you can say this about a D1 athlete, he is not very athletic. I don't see him blowing up the combine or pro-days. 

[BeenPounding]

23 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I liked Sawyer when he was a second rounder, but not in the first.  I think he has limitations, but he is a dawg. Not sure he will ever be that 12 sack guy, but you will get 6 and he will hold the edge, imo.  I am afraid this game will inflate his stock. 

I think this draft is pretty even from about pick 12 through the second round--not a huge dropoff--the play may be to trade back and get 3 players instead of staying at #8 and getting another pick at #54 or so. 

I think we are going to need 2 DL, 1 edge, 1 CB, 1 LB, and maybe 2 Safeties. Not sure if we are keeping Clowney and/or Wonnum-as much as it hurts our cap, we probably should.

Next year Clowney and Wonnom have a combined cap hit of 21 million.  Honestly, that isn't bad for two decent players.  I like Wonnom, If he improves against the run he is a solid situational pass rusher / back-up / spot starter.  That's what 8 million buys you at the EDGE.  Clowney on the other hand has a 13 million cap hit.  Not terrible, but he needs to stay healthier.  Adding a rookie who can play 30 - 40% of the snaps could help keep JC healthier IMOP.

[Martin]

There seem to be an unusual number of good 4-3 DEs in this draft. Not sure if Sawyer fits in a 3-4 or not. But I love him as a football player, he’s the type of player you want on your team. 

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

Need to address pass rusher and safety in FA as well as draft. Can't expect rookies to  come in and have an immediate impact. Having Derrick Brown back will help a lot, but another defense like last year is not acceptable. 

I think a free agent pass rusher (if we keep Wonnum and Clowney) would break the bank (without doing any research, mind you), so I think we have to look draft for that edge....S? I think we can get a free agent to help.  I am guessing Fuller will not be back and Richardson will step up into that role--and I am also guessing that Woods will not be back--Of course,before teams start negotiating, you don't know what you have but I really like Tre'von Moehrig from the Raiders.  He does not sound that interested in returning to Vegas.  He is 26 and covers the field.