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Anyone left who does not believe in Bryce ?


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9 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Who has passed judgment? Y'all are a piece of work. You act like stating the obvious current trend on QB efficiency on two young QBs, including ours, is passing judgement. I know some of you have a difficult time comprehending, while others of you feign it. The story hasn't been written on either Stroud, or, more importantly, Bryce Young. As I am a Panthers fan, I am infinitely more interested in discussing Bryce, and not just in a negative sense whenever the topic of Stroud comes up like some...and I'm not going to apologize for it, and I'm not going to apologize for being tired of the understated shots at Young whenever the two come up, and I'm certainly not going to continue to discuss either of them within the context of the past, and definitely not going to negate the larger context of their current situations when comparing them presently and speculating about the future. Deal with it!

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7 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Stroud had one of the better rookie seasons of all time, and had a bit of a slump his sophomore season but is in the playoffs, and stepped up when it mattered to help lead his team to victory.... It's easy to praise that kind of play and success.  Young's had a tougher road but is playing well now. It's harder to hang out hat on his accomplishments - it's still about his potential.

And as to pulling teeth, I dunno man. I don't see it that way anymore. You've got people like Frankw and me saying we're excited for next year and saw real growth.

Meanwhile we've got you coming in and calling Stroud pedestrian and others in the playoff thread trolling after a drive... So the trolling then brings in people to defend Stroud etc... 

I think he said Stroud was having a pedestrian game. One TD is pedestrian, considering five Young TDs in one game was described on this board as "efficient" and "not bad". If five's efficient, that standard implies that one would probably be trash.

Stroud also has one of the best defenses in the NFL to lean on when he's having a pedestrian game, while Young has one of, I'll be kind and say, one of the three worst defenses of all time -- a defense that allowed 653 more rushing yards than the 31st-ranked defense.

A lot of that falls on injury luck, which has not hurt Houston but destroyed the Panthers in the sense that two of the top three defensive players on the roster were lost for the season in Weeks 1 and 3 respectively. But it's impossible to blow out a team when you put up points but the defense is swiss cheese. Stroud knows he can score 20 and win. Hell, Young's had to be pushing or above 40 the last three weeks just to have a chance. It's OK to be cautiously optimistic about Young. Excited, even. Convinced he's a star? Some are. I'm not. But hey, he could be. This is the first year in a long time that you're entering it with hope of genuine good QB play.

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