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Backup QB


DaveThePanther2008
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27 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

Dalton and a mid round draft guy to develop is the likely and easiest plan

Dalton + mid-late round draft pick does provide a lot of advantages. The rookie gets to sit and learn from Andy and Bryce for a year while Bryce gets his big bro QB for another season to be able to lean on. Seems like a win-win.

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Following the draft, I am bringing in a handful of UDFA QBs and allowing them to compete for the back-up role with Jack Plummer.  I do not want to waste any of our draft picks or 30 mil FA money on a veteran, unless they can be had for near league minimum. 

If we are going to compete for the NFC South next year, we need to be all in on BY and utilize every dollar and pick on bringing in #1 WR and fixing the worst defense in NFL history. 

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1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Yes very tough 

Rourke is my top choice--but I had my eye on Howard earlier in the season when he was not on top 100 boards--now he i creeping up--a good game or two down the stretch for him could send him into the second round. 

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50 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Potential backups I'd be okay with if Dalton hangs them up (In no particular order):

  • Zach Wilson
  • Drew Lock
  • Marcus Mariota
  • Cooper Rush
  • Josh Dobbs
  • Jacoby Brissett
  • Jarrett Stidham
  • Jimmy Garoppolo
  • Mason Rudolph

 

I think about the temperament of the player as a backup, and this is a fairly impressive list--for backups.  Could be the way we go.

51 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

Following the draft, I am bringing in a handful of UDFA QBs and allowing them to compete for the back-up role with Jack Plummer.  I do not want to waste any of our draft picks or 30 mil FA money on a veteran, unless they can be had for near league minimum. 

If we are going to compete for the NFC South next year, we need to be all in on BY and utilize every dollar and pick on bringing in #1 WR and fixing the worst defense in NFL history. 

Right, I think.  The problem with a veteran backup qb is they make $$$.  Several backups in the NFL right now make $6-8 million.  Good work if you can get it--I am interested in your idea--I mean Brock Purdy was one pick away from this. Most of the available backups this year are not going to save your season should your starter go down--so why not get a young guy who is motivated instead of some older person who failed and is now half coach, half mentor, half player--(never was good with fractions).

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1 minute ago, Shocker said:

I fail to see how picking a QB in the mid rounds is a “wasted pick”.  It’s only the most important position in sports and there are some good mid round prospects.  I must be missing something 

Bryce is a young qb who can benefit from veteran mind in the room. Given the holes in the roster and needs it seems odd to put draft capital in to qb this year.

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1 minute ago, csx said:

I'd rather have Dalton or Flacco then Brissett than any rookie.

Definitely want a guy you can count on for a few games who gives the team a chance to win--I see that perspective.  My view is the backup needs to be competing and developing for 3 years from now, when Bryce may be a mediocre QB asking for $80m.  In addition, his success has been a relatively short stretch; we don't know if old Bryce might return.  I would like to be grooming a backup to be an NFL starter (here or elsewhere) than keeping a guy out of retirement.  

But there is benefit to any approach, and what I like probably matters little--Cousins behind RGIII, Brady was drafted when Bledsoe was a big name, The Niners drafted Purdy when they were grooming Lance, etc.  If you sign a 38-year old veteran, you don't develop the backup QB.  Here, we seem to be able to develop QBs (Coach has the rep for developing QBs), so I would like to see us prepare for an uncertain future and use the talents we have on the staff.

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15 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I fail to see how picking a QB in the mid rounds is a “wasted pick”.  It’s only the most important position in sports and there are some good mid round prospects.  I must be missing something 

I am the same way--look back at the draft history of the Panthers and see how many fourth rounders stuck--While I agree that we need all the picks we have to address needs, backup QB is a VERY IMPORTANT need.  While people do not want to spend a draft pick on a QB--I think the best value in round 4 might be QB.  Besides, backups cost more cap room than a mid round rookie--so what you lose in the draft you gain in free agency.  We have coaches who have developed QBs--and other players.  Let them do their work.  The concept that a third year QB needs a mentor is myth.  They can develop just as much by mentoring a rookie--and there are these things called coaches (often former QBs) who can do that.

THIS DRAFT has some strong, developmental QBs that should be available in rounds 3 and 4.  The Pats drafted Brady when they had Bledsoe--same thing.  I want my backup QB trying to win a starting gig, not looking to stave off Shady Acres.

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I'd like to pair a veteran with a Day 3. 

You still need a veteran in the room, they will have influence that the coaches don't have. 

  • Jacoby Brissett
  • Taylor Heinicke
  • Carson Wentz
  • Jimmy Garappolo 
  • Cooper Rush
  • Josh Dobbs

All Free Agents with reasonable price tags.

Then get a Day 3 guy to grow into your future back up. (Maybe it's Plummer already, idk). 

  • Dillon Gabriel
  • Riley Leonard
  • Will Howard

Somebody like that in rounds 4-6.

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