If I told you two days ago...

[Davidson Deac II]

I think we've had one third-round draft pick in franchise history that started as a rookie, and that would be Charles Godfrey. So I'm not expecting a ton from Edwards.

Your comment made me go back and look at our third round picks. We really haven't had much luck in the third round at all. Steve Smith, Charles Godfrey and Charles Johnson, and thats about it.

[jtm]

This forum is unbelievable. I wonder if 90% of the people here know anything about football or the Panthers. All everyone ever does on this forum is whine. You whine when we are winning games and you whine when we are losing games. You whine when we don't have a QB, then Carolina finally cuts Delhomme and everyone whines again. Matt Moore had a couple good games but saying he is our franchise QB based on that is idiotic. Now the Panthers pony up and get Clausen which was a steal in the 2nd round and everyone whines again. Then they grab a solid WR that would have gone early 1st round any other year and everyone whines again. I will admit that Edwards was a bit of a stretch, but let's see this thing play out before passing judgment. Everyone puts too much in these stupid mock drafts.

Would you have "wasted" a first round pick on Steve Smith even though he wasn't "projected" to go until late in the draft? Of course you would have. This Edwards kid has freakish athleticism and granted I would not have traded up to get him, but if it works out then it was a good move.

Most people were whining when we traded up to get Otah, look how that played out. All in all the Panthers historically are very good in the draft. And yes, I said very good. Granted they have had some busts, but every team has these.

Getting a blue-chip QB, a solid WR, and another potential solid slot WR without a first round pick....and you aren't happy????

[Cyberjag]

Your comment made me go back and look at our third round picks. We really haven't had much luck in the third round at all. Steve Smith, Charles Godfrey and Charles Johnson, and thats about it.

Come on Deac, we got Winslow Oliver there, and Kinnon Tatum. That's two guys who made big contributions in the 90s. And don't forget Spoon and Ricky Manning Jr. Seidman got starts at Tight End, and Mathis at OG (he's still starting in Cleveland). And then there was this guy named Wharton...

Third Round doesn't produce year one starters, but we develop them well. And if Edwards develops, he'll be scary good.

[Guild]

Edwards in the third is interesting. The Panthers have been completely unpredictable except with the LaFell pick.

The more I think about it the less I hate the Clausen pick but I still think Moore has what it takes to be our QB. If Clausen is better though then I say go with him. Moore will get a shot elsewhere (Cleveland or Oakland or Seattle) next year if Clausen is our guy.

Though I not-so-secretly hope that Edwards ends up as our QB somehow and ends up being an accurate and non-law-breaking Michael Vick.

[89panthersfreak34]

if you would have said we would have passed on Golden Tate to take his QB I would have spit in your face..

this

[PantherBob]

you can when the guy is electrifying on the field and when you are labeled a "good football player", you might as well say he has "it".. that is a great compliment to anyone playing football.

if Edwards was muffing punt returns at his pro day or bobbling the ball when receiving kickoffs, do you think they would have drafted him?

if the guy can catch a football.. he's worth every chance, because once the ball is in his hands, he has shown to be a winner.. let's hope it translates, but to think he's doomed just because he never returned a punt is entirely premature...

if the guy can learn to run routes and is average to above average at catching the ball, you're going to love this guy.. he will then be an exceptional player.

and comparing Goodson is also premature.. Goodson was a rookie last year.. Hurney said Edwards may be a projection, but could pay off in a huge way due to his skill set and great football skills.. neither player are really expected to step in and become Steve Smith in their first year and you are using that scenario to say this was a bad pick. bad logic, IMO...

if you expected any 3rd rounder to step in right away, well, no one we have ever drafted has become spectacular in their 1st year, but you are going to hold Edwards to an unrealistic expectation just to hate on the pick? come on man...

Call me crazy but if you're going to trade away a 2nd round pick for a WR/KR you might want to take one that has actually played the position before.

The panthers have tried this experiment with Goodson, Stewart, Williams, Gamble, etc etc and have failed each time. Edwards isnt a 2nd round talent anyway. They easily could have had him in the 4th. Makes no sense to make such a desperate move for a major project player

[panthers55]

Because he said himself in the interview last night that he has never returned a punt before in his life. That came from his own mouth. Havent the panthers tried this experiment before with Goodson? You cant just turn anyone into a PR/KR just because they are fast or a good athlete.

THe thing is that Edwards has the potential to excel in several areas. If he turns out to contribute as either a quarterback, a wide receiver or a PR/KR we would have hit payday with a 3rd rounder. He doesn't have to do everything well. If he can run the wildcat and pass effectively out of it he will be a great pickup. The high character version of Michael Vick.

[bleys]

Call me crazy but if you're going to trade away a 2nd round pick for a WR/KR you might want to take one that has actually played the position before.

The panthers have tried this experiment with Goodson, Stewart, Williams, Gamble, etc etc and have failed each time. Edwards isnt a 2nd round talent anyway. They easily could have had him in the 4th. Makes no sense to make such a desperate move for a major project player

can't really say he was available in the 4th when signs were pointing to him possibly gone in the 3rd.. We used a 2nd on Dwayne Jarrett, so who's to say what is worth that pick...

thing is, with Edwards quickness/speed, if he can run a route and hold onto the ball, he will be a scary weapon..

one thing we do know: there is nothing absolute about players and their potential, where we draft them and what their worth is..

[PantherBob]

THe thing is that Edwards has the potential to excel in several areas. If he turns out to contribute as either a quarterback, a wide receiver or a PR/KR we would have hit payday with a 3rd rounder. He doesn't have to do everything well. If he can run the wildcat and pass effectively out of it he will be a great pickup. The high character version of Michael Vick.

Every player in the draft has potential to excel. You dont trade away a 2nd round pick for a project player that has never played the position you are asking him to play

[PantherBob]

can't really say he was available in the 4th when signs were pointing to him possibly gone in the 3rd.. We used a 2nd on Dwayne Jarrett, so who's to say what is worth that pick...

thing is, with Edwards quickness/speed, if he can run a route and hold onto the ball, he will be a scary weapon..

one thing we do know: there is nothing absolute about players and their potential, where we draft them and what their worth is..

So its ok to throw away a 2nd round pick next year because Dwayne Jarrett didnt pan out? Dont understand that logic one bit. Edwards isnt a 2nd or 3rd round talent. He's a project player and nothing more.

[ncbobcat]

that we had traded away our 2011 second round pick and walked away with Clausen, LaFell, and Edwards, would you have been happy?

If that was all the information I had, yes. If you told me the second was for Edwards and how the rest of the draft unfolded after that, not so much. I'm not pissed, but not thrilled either.

[chbright]

Has everybody given up on Dexter Jackson as our speed guy?

QFT: a slot guy in the making. a former 2nd rounder with speed to burn and was only picked up late before the season. he was on the bench to learn. while he may never pan out, he has as much a chance to come in at take the slot role from kenny moore. As does gettis, edwards, and the lafell/jarrett looser. idk, but jarrett strikes me as a 1 trick pony that really needs to win that possession spot from lafell in camp. not that he cant be a good reciever, but he isnt a guy you would ever expect to lineup and play the slot.

as for the original question: not thrilled. either we traded a pick for clausen or lafell would have been my thought, and no i would not have been happy at all. no to trade up for clausen or any qb. not forr the $$$ or future picks cost. no to trade up for lafell as there were a ton of wrs to be left in the 3rd if we didnt get him in the 2nd (like we did in the 3rd). i would have been a bit bummed by edwards at 78 as there were better prospects left (assuming we got lafell earlier). if we came away with clausen and lafell i would have been thrilled, even if we missed out on edwards. like the player, not the value we gave up.

[panthersphan]

Yes, I'd be very happy.

The thing I don't think people realize is that we will be getting a 3rd Round (Compensation) Pick in next years draft.

So we have a 1st and two 3rd's for next year. And we landed Clausen, LaFell and Armanti...I'm in!

[brandon_87]

Sure, until you told me traded next years 2nd for Armanti Edwards and passed over Golden Tate for a backup QB.

lmfao, thats what had me turn the draft off, I couldnt bare to watch it anymore knowing we didnt get tate and we took a qb to play WR, at least we could have taken clausen and tate u know? Tate IS a WR and can return kicks, so why waste a pick AND next years 2 rd. pick to take a 5th-7th rd projected QUARTERBACK to play WR?