If I told you two days ago...

[Sandy Claws]

Teams skipped over Ryan Kalil multiple times as well. Clearly he is a horrible center and should be taken out behind Bank of America Stadium and shot.

PSSST

Kalil was the first center picked in '07. The need wasn't there.

[panthers55]

I think that the Clausen pick was exactly what folks constsntly whined about the Panthers for years. We wouldn't take a quarterback high in the draft but constantly picked up UDFAs and other folks cast offs and tried to ride the running game into the postseason. Now we have a guy who by many draft boards was a top 10 pick that cost us middle of the second round money. He now have our Matt Ryan at a fraction of the cost. If he turns out to be the next Ryan Leaf at least we didn't spend a ton of money on him and invest a top 10 pick.

Seriously there is little downside and alot of potential gain. How many times do you get to pick a franchise quarterback like we did just because he fell late in the draft process. Guys like Tate are not going to transform the team like a franchise quarterback will. And best of all the drop by Clausen will also serve to give him some motivation and feed him humble pie to boot. It really has been an excellent draft so far. We loaded up on the two positions that people have criticized Fox and Hurney for avoiding for years, quarterback and wide receiver.

[panthers55]

Edwards never returned a kickoff/PR in his life and has little to no WR experience. They gave up a 2nd round pick on a project player hoping he'll learn a whole new position. Not a smart move at all.

How do you know. I understand we were at his pro-day and watched him return punts and catch balls. I guess they saw something they liked. Why would you suggest you know better when you have probaly never even met the guy up close. Do you really think we would have moved up like we did and spent a 2nd rounder next year on a guy who was a total project unless we saw alot in him. Our scouting department is pretty good in finding guys that are diamonds in the rough. I don't know if Edwards will make a big difference right away but to have a guy who can run the wildcat, throw the ball, run the practice squad and perhaps challenge at wide receiver or return man all for a thrid rounder seems like a decent idea. The FO is thinking about the future and making picks now for down the road which is exactly what they are paid to do.

[Zod]

Yeah man, how do you know that only because he has never done something in his life he won't step in and perform it remarkably well at the highest level possible???

[panthers55]

Yeah man, how do you know that only because he has never done something in his life he won't step in and perform it remarkably well at the highest level possible???

Edwards was a starting quarterback on a national championship team. Sure it was Div I-A but to say he has done nothing in his life is a little bit ridiculous even for you. He had great numbers, great intangibles and is considered a great leader. I think he will end up being what Mike Vick never was. A good passer, good runner and high character guy. All for a 3rd rounder.

Yeah I think you are right. He will come in here and perform at a high level just like he has all his college career.

[Zod]

He won't get any snaps at QB in the pros except for the occasional trick play possibly. In summer school he will be with the WR/ST guys. Wait and see.

He needs to learn 2 completely new positions at a pro level, wr and kr. That is his only shot at touching a ball in the pros. Will he do it? Maybe. Was it worth giving up a second rounder for a guy that would have been there 2 rounds later? No chance in hell.

[Jaxel]

If i had to guess, Edwards knew that pre-draft, and probably is already working on it. Can't criticize what you haven't seen, the guy is a good athlete, a speedster, and a football player, he'll do fine.

[panthers55]

He won't get any snaps at QB in the pros except for the occasional trick play possibly. In summer school he will be with the WR/ST guys. Wait and see.

He needs to learn 2 completely new positions at a pro level, wr and kr. That is his only shot at touching a ball in the pros. Will he do it? Maybe. Was it worth giving up a second rounder for a guy that would have been there 2 rounds later? No chance in hell.

I expect we will use him as you say for returns and wide receiver right away. Any quarterback work he will get would be down the road. But then again that is the ideal situation for any quarterbaclk.

And he would not have been there 1 round later let alone 2. Since you are so close to the staff why not ask them why they made a bone head pick. After the several draft where we have done pretty well, I would tend to believe them over you. They have a proven track record under Gregory while you have nada but a penchance to stir the pot.

[PantherBob]

How do you know. I understand we were at his pro-day and watched him return punts and catch balls. I guess they saw something they liked. Why would you suggest you know better when you have probaly never even met the guy up close. Do you really think we would have moved up like we did and spent a 2nd rounder next year on a guy who was a total project unless we saw alot in him. Our scouting department is pretty good in finding guys that are diamonds in the rough. I don't know if Edwards will make a big difference right away but to have a guy who can run the wildcat, throw the ball, run the practice squad and perhaps challenge at wide receiver or return man all for a thrid rounder seems like a decent idea. The FO is thinking about the future and making picks now for down the road which is exactly what they are paid to do.

Because he said himself in the interview last night that he has never returned a punt before in his life. That came from his own mouth. Havent the panthers tried this experiment before with Goodson? You cant just turn anyone into a PR/KR just because they are fast or a good athlete.

[bleys]

Because he said himself in the interview last night that he has never returned a punt before in his life. That came from his own mouth. Havent the panthers tried this experiment before with Goodson? You cant just turn anyone into a PR/KR just because they are fast or a good athlete.

you can when the guy is electrifying on the field and when you are labeled a "good football player", you might as well say he has "it".. that is a great compliment to anyone playing football.

if Edwards was muffing punt returns at his pro day or bobbling the ball when receiving kickoffs, do you think they would have drafted him?

if the guy can catch a football.. he's worth every chance, because once the ball is in his hands, he has shown to be a winner.. let's hope it translates, but to think he's doomed just because he never returned a punt is entirely premature...

if the guy can learn to run routes and is average to above average at catching the ball, you're going to love this guy.. he will then be an exceptional player.

and comparing Goodson is also premature.. Goodson was a rookie last year.. Hurney said Edwards may be a projection, but could pay off in a huge way due to his skill set and great football skills.. neither player are really expected to step in and become Steve Smith in their first year and you are using that scenario to say this was a bad pick. bad logic, IMO...

if you expected any 3rd rounder to step in right away, well, no one we have ever drafted has become spectacular in their 1st year, but you are going to hold Edwards to an unrealistic expectation just to hate on the pick? come on man...

[Cyberjag]

I think we've had one third-round draft pick in franchise history that started as a rookie, and that would be Charles Godfrey. So I'm not expecting a ton from Edwards.

What I do know about him is that he's fast, athletic, has a great arm, is a quick thinker, and has some great football experience. Those are pretty good characteristics to build on. Maybe he'll crap out as a returner. Maybe he won't be able to run good routes. Maybe he will forget how to run in the open field. Maybe he'll end up like Dexter Jackson and fear the hit. Those are all possibilities. But I think it's more likely that before all that happens he discovers a niche and makes it his own.

I don't think we'll see a lot of Edwards in 2010, but in a few years I bet he becomes a fixture.

[Rononoa3000]

I think we've had one third-round draft pick in franchise history that started as a rookie, and that would be Charles Godfrey. So I'm not expecting a ton from Edwards.

What I do know about him is that he's fast, athletic, has a great arm, is a quick thinker, and has some great football experience. Those are pretty good characteristics to build on. Maybe he'll crap out as a returner. Maybe he won't be able to run good routes. Maybe he will forget how to run in the open field. Maybe he'll end up like Dexter Jackson and fear the hit. Those are all possibilities. But I think it's more likely that before all that happens he discovers a niche and makes it his own.

I don't think we'll see a lot of Edwards in 2010, but in a few years I bet he becomes a fixture.

Thats alot of maybes.

Maybe I will grow wings and fly to your house and poo in your cars sunroof.

[Cyberjag]

Thats alot of maybes.

Maybe I will grow wings and fly to your house and poo in your cars sunroof.

Maybe I'll keep my sunroof closed. And I agree, a lot of maybes have to become realities before he doesn't work out. Until then, it's a good pick.

[Rononoa3000]

Maybe I'll keep my sunroof closed. And I agree, a lot of maybes have to become realities before he doesn't work out. Until then, it's a good pick.

I like the pick too.

If you close your sunroof then you will just have a huge turn on top of your car. It is hot out and it will stink.

Poop jokes are fun.