To put Jarrett in perspective

[Swarly]

Rice and Smith can get separation at the line, Jarrett can't.

Favre or Manning couldn't teach him that. Jarrett deserves just as much blame as Jake. With that said, he's cheap as hell(as said already) and will get another chance. I'm not predicting a 1000 yard season or anything, but I see him being good enough to warrant a new contract.

[mick eye]

Our coaching staff is old-school they do not spread the ball around. They also lean on the run and defense. If we had a more spread open offense that involved the TE's and 2nd and 3rd receiver his numbers would have been better. Also it is not uncommon for WR's to have slow rookie and sophomore years. Sounds like excuses but i am GUARANTEEING that Jarrett's numbers will improve this year.

[Sloth]

Our coaching staff is old-school they do not spread the ball around. They also lean on the run and defense. If we had a more spread open offense that involved the TE's and 2nd and 3rd receiver his numbers would have been better. Also it is not uncommon for WR's to have slow rookie and sophomore years. Sounds like excuses but i am GUARANTEEING that Jarrett's numbers will improve this year.

Right, but that's not saying much. He could average 2 catches for 25 yards a game and 2 touchdowns next season. Crappy? Yep. Massive improvement? Yep.

[mr beauxjangles]

Let's look at all WRs taken in the second round since 2000:

2009

Brian Robiskie

Mohamed Massaquoi

2008

Donnie Avery

Devin Thomas

Jordy Nelson

James Hardy

Eddie Royal

Jerome Simpson

DeSean Jackson

Malcolm Kelly

Limas Sweed

Dexter Jackson

2007

Sidney Rice

Dwayne Jarrett

Steve Smith

2006

Chad Jackson

Sinorice Moss

Greg Jennings

2005

Reggie Brown

Mark Bradley

Roscoe Parish

Terrence Murphy

Vincent Jackson

2004

Devery Henderson

Darius Watts

Keary Colbert

2003

Taylor Jacobs

Bethel Johnson

Anquan Boldin

Tyrone Calico

2002

Jabar Gaffney

Josh Reed

Tim Carter

Andre Davis

Reche Caldwell

Antwaan Randle El

Antonio Bryant

Deion Branch

2001

Quincy Morgan

Chad Johnson

Robert Ferguson

Chris Chambers

2000

Dennis Northcut

Todd Pinkston

Jerry Porter

Greg Jennings, Vincent Jackson, Boldin, OchoCinco, Antonio Bryant and Chris Chambers are the only ones that have ever been the first WR (or capable of in the case of Boldin and Jennings) on their team for more than one year at some point in their career. That's 6 out of 45. Add in Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson who appear to be capable/potential number ones for multiple years and you have 8. There are plenty more that have had good careers, have been servicable number twos, or have the potential to be solid number twos and maybe ones in the future (I'm being really generous and counting 26 more that have at least added some value to their team as a wideout). So 8 out of 45 I'll call really good hits (17.8%). There are a few others have been very good and near the top group (guys like Deion Branch) so let's be really generous and say 25% of second rounders in the last decade have been studs. Add in the other 26 (+/- a few depending on opinion) mentioned above that have at least provided some service to their team and you get a 75.6% (34/45) hit rate on a receiver that at least provides some value at some point in their career.

Jarrett and Colbert fall in the other roughly 25%.

So basically, in the last decade:

1/4 wideouts taken in the second round become number ones or very close

2/4 wideouts taken in the second round provide value as a solid number two or three

1/4 are just busts

Now of course, there's plenty of subjectivity in all of this, but that's my rough take on it.

[CRA]

Dwayne Jarret was drafted right after Minnesota drafted Sidney Rice.

He was drafted 5 spots ahead of the Giants' Steve Smith.

2009 stats:

Rice 83 receptions, 1312 yards, 8 TDs

Smith 107 receptions, 1220 yards, 7 TDs

Jarrett 17 receptions, 196 yards, 1 TD

I hope everything was Jake's fault. He was drafted in pretty good company.

neither Rice nor Smith played in an offense than ran mostly 2 WR sets. neither played w/ a below average QB....and that is all Jarrett has had.

[Brooklyn Bully]

I'm soooo sick of the Jarrett debate. Hurney gave us all the answer last month in his radio interview: it's up to him (Jarrett) if he starts.

Meaning, he hasn't shown them anything yet to warrant starting for this team.

[MadHatter]

Rice and Smith can get separation at the line, Jarrett can't.

Favre or Manning couldn't teach him that. Jarrett deserves just as much blame as Jake. With that said, he's cheap as hell(as said already) and will get another chance. I'm not predicting a 1000 yard season or anything, but I see him being good enough to warrant a new contract.

Agree that blame needs to fall on Jarrett's shoulders as well. He is responsible for his own development.

But, no one outside of Smitty or Moose got any sig action. We usually only dressed 3 WR's....and ran 1 and 2 WR sets.

I do hope that Fox and Co understand how valuable a good passing game can be to our running game. I hope that we put more 3 WR sets on the field to loosen up the run defenses.

[SOJA]

Partially Jarrett's fault partially Jakes. I mean Rice had nothing before one of the greatest quaterbacks of all time came to save him, and Smith was great last year but hasn't been much in years before. Jarett isn't a bust yet, but this year is definitely make or break with him and the Panthers at least.

[The Don]

I'm soooo sick of the Jarrett debate. Hurney gave us all the answer last month in his radio interview: it's up to him (Jarrett) if he starts.

Meaning, he hasn't shown them anything yet to warrant starting for this team.

i'm with you man. we all know he's sucked up until this point. we all know what he did against the saints' backups... we all know about our offense and how they run the ball more than passing. why can't we just leave it at that?

while we're on the subject though, moose only had 400yrds or so last season and smitty didn't even crack a 1,000 yards. and i strongly believe that had we made jarrett the #2 last season from the get go, he would've put up at least 500 yards. and 4 tds.

[Argus Plexus]

When the Pre-Season is over, I will then give my opinion of Jarrett. Mum until then.

[The Don]

When the Pre-Season is over, I will then give my opinion of Jarrett. Mum until then.

yeah, i like that idea. new QB, offensive line will be back and healthy, he should be the shoe-in for the #2 option, and it'll be his chance to prove that he's got what it takes. 4 preseason games playing in the same spot should show the coaching staff if he's got what it takes.

[Chimera]

Agree that blame needs to fall on Jarrett's shoulders as well. He is responsible for his own development.

But, no one outside of Smitty or Moose got any sig action. We usually only dressed 3 WR's....and ran 1 and 2 WR sets.

I do hope that Fox and Co understand how valuable a good passing game can be to our running game. I hope that we put more 3 WR sets on the field to loosen up the run defenses.

We ran 3 WR sets when we had 3 dependable WRs (think 2003).

If you had a choice of:

Smith

Muhammad

Rosario

King

or

Smith

Muhammad

King

Jarrett

which would you put on the field?

Smith in double coverage is a better target than Jarrett in single coverage IMO.

[brandon_87]

yep. first thought i had.

I second that