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Did you guys hear Gruden after the Broncos pick?


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Didn't care for Gruden as much this past year, but he's elevated himself a lot, especially with his "QB Camp" segments.

Might be a better move for him to keep this job rather than return to coaching.

although he's a pretty good announcer, i'm more fond of his coaching. i mean, he had almost nothing but winning seasons when he was with the buccs, then he leaves, and the buccs completely fail the following year.

put it to you this way, if Fox is out the door next year, i'd rather have gruden over cowher any day.

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although he's a pretty good announcer, i'm more fond of his coaching. i mean, he had almost nothing but winning seasons when he was with the buccs, then he leaves, and the buccs completely fail the following year.

put it to you this way, if Fox is out the door next year, i'd rather have gruden over cowher any day.

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He will be the next Madden IMO.

Quite possible.

People used to say that about Matt Millen before the disaster that was the Lions.

although he's a pretty good announcer, i'm more fond of his coaching. i mean, he had almost nothing but winning seasons when he was with the buccs, then he leaves, and the buccs completely fail the following year.

put it to you this way, if Fox is out the door next year, i'd rather have gruden over cowher any day.

Eeeehhhh, not really.

He was about 50-50 after the Super Bowl year (for which a fair number of people give Tony Dungy a lot of credit).

Including the Super Bowl season, he was 57-55 in Tampa (winning pct of .509). He actually had a higher winning percentage in Oakland (.594) .

Overall he's right at 54%. By contract, John Fox's winning perdentage with the Panthers is 0.555.

As far as the playoffs, other than the previously discussed Super Bowl, the Bucs only made the playoffs twice in the next six years and were one and done both times.

Throw in that the reason he ended up being let go was that his players all hated his guts and basically threatened to mutiny if they had to play for him without Monte Kiffin.

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Eeeehhhh, not really.

He was about 50-50 after the Super Bowl year (for which a fair number of people give Tony Dungy a lot of credit).

Including the Super Bowl season, he was 57-55 in Tampa (winning pct of .509). He actually had a higher winning percentage in Oakland (.594) .

Overall he's right at 54%. By contract, John Fox's winning perdentage with the Panthers is 0.555.

As far as the playoffs, other than the previously discussed Super Bowl, the Bucs only made the playoffs twice in the next six years and were one and done both times.

Throw in that the reason he ended up being let go was that his players all hated his guts and basically threatened to mutiny if they had to play for him without Monte Kiffin.

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