If Graham is gone, fo you take Carter?

[*FreeFua*]

25 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Just can’t get behind Carter because I don’t feel like he’s truly the BPA until around pick 15.

For me, I’d go:

1. Will Johnson

2. Mason Graham

3. Tetairoa McMillan

4. Malaki Starks

5. Tyler Warren

now that we’re keeping Evero I think Starks is a VERY real possibility 

[ncfan]

Carter is top 2-3 overall on a lot of teams boards.  He fits the 3-4 like a glove.

 

Teams running a 4-3 may devalue him though.  

[MillionDollarCam]

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

now that we’re keeping Evero I think Starks is a VERY real possibility 

I’m super high on him. Best safety to come out since Hamilton. Instant day one starter and I could see him being a top 10 free safety by seasons end.

Edited Monday at 08:45 PM by MillionDollarCam

[thunderraiden]

I think people are really sleeping on Evero and Scourton. That is EJ's prototype edge profile and build for stopping the run... and guess what we need help with the most? and he has 2023 tape to justify the pick. People are sleeping on the pairing.

Edited Monday at 08:48 PM by thunderraiden

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, ncfan said:

Carter is top 2-3 overall on a lot of teams boards. 

I think that is really premature to say.   Lots of question marks with him.   He is not strong vs the run,  just more of a speed rusher then anything and his technique and tackling need improvement.

 

That said if he comes to the combine and goes for a 4.4 at 6'2ish 250+ then someone in the top 5 will draft on that alone.  Id rather have tmac or graham.   Those are plug and play guys from day 1.

[MillionDollarCam]

8 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

I think people are really sleeping on Evero and Scourton. That is EJ's prototype edge profile and build for stopping the run... and guess what we need help with the most? and he has 2023 tape to justify the pick. People are sleeping on the pairing.

I prefer Scourton to Carter. He’s much closer to the Bradley Chubb type of player that Evero wants as an EDGE. Only thing with Scourton is Jack Sawyer is just as good and you can get him in the second.

Carter is drawing comparisons to Brian Burns who we ran off.

Edited Monday at 08:56 PM by MillionDollarCam

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

I’m super high on him. Best safety to come out since Hamilton. Instant day one starter and I could see him being a top 10 free safety by seasons end.

High IQ kid that can play deep and in the slot 

Obviously we need pass rush help or our secondary doesn’t stand a chance but I’m looking at 2026 as our first competitive year. I don’t want to take a pass rusher just for the sake of taking one. Starks will most likely be the best football player on the board at our pick. 

Would be Evero’s new Justin Simmons

[45catfan]

I'm leary of Pearce.  I've seen several comps to Brian Burns.  A wiry edge guy, but a liability in the run game.  Sacks numbers will get him drafted higher than he probably should go.  A one-dimensional guy.

[ProcessBlue2]

I would rather have Mykel Williams than Abdul Carter tbh.

[Growl]

2 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I would rather have Mykel Williams than Abdul Carter tbh.

looks a little stiff imo. Carter, Pearce, even Walker across from him have got a lot more burst. 

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I would rather have Mykel Williams than Abdul Carter tbh.

That's my guy too among the top 3 Edge players.

[KaijuGato]

39 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Where are those 2 projected to go in the draft? I need to check out the top 100 for this draft and try to figure out who may still be there at our 2nd round pick.

Both are projected 2nd round Grant maybe bottom of the 1st.  Grant was on that Michigan Dline with Graham.

Kenneth Grant- 6’3” 339 lbs

Deone Walker- 6’6” 344 lbs

Another interesting name for potential Day 2 pick Landon Jackson Arkansas, DL/Edge 6’ 7” 280 lbs. 

We will have options if we miss out on Graham. 

[*FreeFua*]

No thanks on Williams 

[ncfan]

11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think that is really premature to say.   Lots of question marks with him.   He is not strong vs the run,  just more of a speed rusher then anything and his technique and tackling need improvement.

 

That said if he comes to the combine and goes for a 4.4 at 6'2ish 250+ then someone in the top 5 will draft on that alone.  Id rather have tmac or graham.   Those are plug and play guys from day 1.

He has plenty of strength and good tackling technique.

he is fantastic in pursuit too.

 

 

He is just 250 speed guy.  As you say.

But hey, so was Von Miller and so was Micah Parsons (who had a similar path and who they comp him too)

both of those guys went to a 3-4 OLB and thrived.  
 

Carter is no way strong enough to hold up in a 4-3.  Especially holding up in the run game at DE.