Evero will return as DC

[Smitty will punch you]

5 hours ago, Johnstonny said:

Hard to evaluate Evro...with the crappy talent.... but measure him to Detroits DC.... he godda go...ur on the clock....

People wanted Aaron Glenn fired his first two years but Dan stuck by his guy. 

[R0CKnR0LLA]

I think the issue is mostly lack of talent, not coaching. But I still don't agree with keeping him on board.

When you're in the running for the worst defense in NFL history a change in direction/scheme is warranted regardless of talent level. Prefer to switch back to 4-3 and bring in a new coach. "More of the same" when you're historically bad doesn't seems like a good idea, but we'll see.

[Anybodyhome]

Panther D allowed 31.4 points per game.

The highest scoring offense in the NFL (Detroit) averaged 27.4

By telling the DC of the worst defense in the league he gets to keep his job, you have just told Bryce Young the Panthers need to be the highest scoring offense in the league next year in order to win.

How in the fug do you announce to the NFL world, "We have our QB!" one minute, and the next you announce to the NFL world, "We will keep the absolute worst defense in the history of the league together."

As a head coach and GM, keeping coordinators is actually saying, "Yep, it was good enough for us this past season."

 

[Anybodyhome]

9 hours ago, Smitty will punch you said:

People wanted Aaron Glenn fired his first two years but Dan stuck by his guy. 

Glenn came onboard with Campbell in 2021, which was a 3-13-1 season. They've been winning since.

Comparing Evero and Glenn isn't the best example, but Glenn had way more upside.

[TLGPanthersFan]

13 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Panther D allowed 31.4 points per game.

The highest scoring offense in the NFL (Detroit) averaged 27.4

By telling the DC of the worst defense in the league he gets to keep his job, you have just told Bryce Young the Panthers need to be the highest scoring offense in the league next year in order to win.

How in the fug do you announce to the NFL world, "We have our QB!" one minute, and the next you announce to the NFL world, "We will keep the absolute worst defense in the history of the league together."

As a head coach and GM, keeping coordinators is actually saying, "Yep, it was good enough for us this past season."

 

Even if we improve talent. Evero’s defenses have been known, even in Denver, to be horrible against the run. 

[CanadianCat]

Im ok with this. They literally stripped the cupboard bare and then our best players on the defense got hurt early. 

Last year it was his defense that was keeping us in games despite the offense. I think we need to give him another run at this. 

[Mage]

41 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Even if we improve talent. Evero’s defenses have been known, even in Denver, to be horrible against the run. 

I have seen this said many times.  Where are people getting this?  He only has 3 years of being a DC.  The one year in Denver, they were 10th in rush yards allowed and 11th in YPC.  That is a solid run defense.

[Icege]

Some safety options currently slated to hit free agency...

• Justin Simmons
• Tyrann Mathieu
• Jeremy Chinn
• MJ Stewart
• Jevon Holland
• Richie Grant
• Trevon Moehrig
• Talanoa Hufanga

 

Holland/Hufanga pls

Edited 23 hours ago by Icege

[Luciu5]

21 hours ago, Krovvy said:

Several of those players were traded or released last off-season. Please don't waste my time with semantics.

You said Evero didn't want Burns, Luvu, Chinn, and Burns. I think that's bullshit and I think you are dumber than rocks for thinking this.

That's my point. Was trying to help you out by making it about the wording. But no you are just stupid to think he didn't want those guys.

[TLGPanthersFan]

14 minutes ago, Mage said:

I have seen this said many times.  Where are people getting this?  He only has 3 years of being a DC.  The one year in Denver, they were 10th in rush yards allowed and 11th in YPC.  That is a solid run defense.

I have already gone over this. Rankings do not tell the whole tale. Yes. He defense was helped by some games he actually kept a team under 100 yards but he has 8 games where he let a team run for over 100 yards. 
He had multiple back to back games of 100 yards or more. One game with over 200. Also 191, 185, 158 and 151. 5 of the 8 games the Broncos defense was absolutely horrible against the run. 
2023 only 4 games of less than 100 yards. This year he had 1 with the final 6 games allows 200 yards per game. 
We will see if it is the lack of talent. But last year with better talent the defense was bad against the run. 

[CanadianCat]

37 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I have already gone over this. Rankings do not tell the whole tale. Yes. He defense was helped by some games he actually kept a team under 100 yards but he has 8 games where he let a team run for over 100 yards. 
He had multiple back to back games of 100 yards or more. One game with over 200. Also 191, 185, 158 and 151. 5 of the 8 games the Broncos defense was absolutely horrible against the run. 
2023 only 4 games of less than 100 yards. This year he had 1 with the final 6 games allows 200 yards per game. 
We will see if it is the lack of talent. But last year with better talent the defense was bad against the run. 

I thin kjust getting Brown back will improve the run defense by 10 spots. 

Overall... I dont care so much about have a top ranked run D. As long as we are average thats good enough.

You cannot have everything.. I would rather put effort in rushing the passer and pass defense then run D. 

[Khyber53]

Awww fug. We weren't very good on defense even before everyone got hurt.

Dude is going to have to make a mid-career course correction like Bryce did before I'll believe in him.

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

I thin kjust getting Brown back will improve the run defense by 10 spots. 

Overall... I dont care so much about have a top ranked run D. As long as we are average thats good enough.

You cannot have everything.. I would rather put effort in rushing the passer and pass defense then run D. 

That's a bit of some high expectations for Brown and his impact after returningfrom injury. It's pretty easy to double team one guy when you don't have to worry about the rest of the line. He's lived that for almost his entire career here. He needs his Rucker type partner in crime. A'Shawn is good but he's nearing the end of his run and it would be beneficial to have a better plan going forward. 

[Krovvy]

1 hour ago, Luciu5 said:

You said Evero didn't want Burns, Luvu, Chinn, and Burns. I think that's bullshit and I think you are dumber than rocks for thinking this.

That's my point. Was trying to help you out by making it about the wording. But no you are just stupid to think he didn't want those guys.

I stated.

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Several of those players he brought in, and a handful he pushed out.

We lost Luvu, Chinn, Jackson and Burns. We brought in several of his former players.

Are you really still flailing around trying to reframe what I stated again and again? I'm telling you your reframing of my statement is incorrect. In an adult world that I would be the end of it, but because I'm on the Huddle and every psycho like you is on their 20th ALT account here we go again.

I don't have to go line by line and state this player was cut, this player was traded, this player was released without being made an offer. It's a general statement about the moves in the off-season that he was a large part of that has made this defense the worst in the league. He had a direct impact on the roster and draft. How can that even be debatable with the amount of his former players we've signed and the articles written on the draft?

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What do you mean pushed out? Luvu was offered a contract and he declined and went with a smaller dollar amount. How is that Evero's fault? Idk man, maybe you could say that for Chinn, maybe. It did seem he couldn't ever find a use for him. But even then, pushed out? Idk if that's the verbage I would use for any of those guys.

This is what you said. You even admit I was right.

Absolute waste of time even typing this clarification to a poo-posting ALT with zero substantive arguments, only semantical nitpicking. Blocking.