Do you think we have a top 10 QB now?

[Growl]

pretty sure he lead the league in GW drives in 4th/OT this season 

[JawnyBlaze]

10? Nah. Top half of the league? Sure if he keeps the upward momentum. 

[frankw]

No one can give the answer to this until we get at least a handful of games under our belt next season.

[CPF4LIFE]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

No one can give the answer to this until we get at least a handful of games under our belt next season.

This shouldn't even have to be said. 

[ForJimmy]

He is a young talented QB who has now shown he belongs in the league. I hope we get him another weapon and see if he takes the next step. I feel much better about him being our QB next year than I did earlier. I don’t know about top 10 yet but I think he is still developing. 

[Luciu5]

1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

Are you telling me this is his one 5 TD game of his career & it's all downhill from here?

OR

He's a PB MVP QB who can CONSISTENTLY have 3+ TD games to carry his team to division championships & contend for the SB?

Eye test saids it's his career best game. They all have 1 or 2 of these career games. Will it take him another 30 starts to get his second? We'll be lucky as fans if he gets to the level of Steve Beuerlein or Ryan Fitzpatrick. That will make him an easy to acquire above average QB, but nothing worthy of what was given up to acquire an average to above average QB.

JFC dude. How many QBs have a career game every week? I mean, Bryce has had a few career games over the last stretch, though this one probably won't be surpassed by him in a bit. I mean if you are expecting 5 TDs from a QB to happen every other game or something, then no poo you are going to be disappointed.

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

JFC dude. How many QBs have a career game every week? I mean, Bryce has had a few career games over the last stretch, though this one probably won't be surpassed by him in a bit. I mean if you are expecting 5 TDs from a QB to happen every other game or something, then no poo you are going to be disappointed.

And he deserves to be disappointed. 

[Donald LaFell]

Not even close, but when your defense is this bad he’s no longer the biggest problem. 

I don’t really trust him to come through in big moments. I feel like he could crumble under pressure once everyone is 0-0 next season. 

I’m not really sure he can take over a game, and I think it takes less to make him look mortal than other physically gifted QBs. 

[panthers55]

23 minutes ago, Donald LaFell said:

Not even close, but when your defense is this bad he’s no longer the biggest problem. 

I don’t really trust him to come through in big moments. I feel like he could crumble under pressure once everyone is 0-0 next season. 

I’m not really sure he can take over a game, and I think it takes less to make him look mortal than other physically gifted QBs. 

While I don't know if he can keep up his recent performances and late heroics but he was huge under pressure over and over today. He put the team on his back and decided the only way to win was to outscore them and score last. What you can't trust was the defense and Bryce took over several times needing a score to regain the lead once again. He was the difference today no question about it.

[tukafan21]

1 hour ago, emcannon said:

If the FO can pry away Tee Higgins, Bryce might be a top 5 QB next year.

Spending the money it will take to sign Higgins, on a WR with a shaky injury history, instead of spending it on the defense that just gave up the most points in NFL history, would be an epically bad decision.  

Yes, I've been a loud proponent of drafting T-Mac if available, but this has nothing to do with that.

Even if we use our 1st on a defensive player, our cap room should be entirely spent on the defensive side of the ball.  There are always good defensive players in FA because teams use their cap space to lock up offensive guys first, and they're more ready to help our defense than any rookies would be anyways.

For what it would take to sign Higgins, we could add 2 or 3 starters on defense, with at least one of them being a big splash signing.  

To get him to come here, it's going to take Top 5 WR money, in no way is he worth that in a vacuum, let along once you factor in our defensive issues.

[carolinanimal]

4 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

Gonna leave this here:

Bryce had 21 total TDs in 12 games started

Stroud had 20 total TDs in 16 games & 1 drive

 

 

Didn't he take his team to the playoffs twice??

[CPF4LIFE]

23 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Spending the money it will take to sign Higgins, on a WR with a shaky injury history, instead of spending it on the defense that just gave up the most points in NFL history, would be an epically bad decision.  

Yes, I've been a loud proponent of drafting T-Mac if available, but this has nothing to do with that.

Even if we use our 1st on a defensive player, our cap room should be entirely spent on the defensive side of the ball.  There are always good defensive players in FA because teams use their cap space to lock up offensive guys first, and they're more ready to help our defense than any rookies would be anyways.

For what it would take to sign Higgins, we could add 2 or 3 starters on defense, with at least one of them being a big splash signing.  

To get him to come here, it's going to take Top 5 WR money, in no way is he worth that in a vacuum, let along once you factor in our defensive issues.

This. Its not gonna be worth it to sign any top receiver with the money we have. Gotta draft or develop one.

[Bear Hands]

6 minutes ago, carolinanimal said:

Didn't he take his team to the playoffs twice??

Yes, he’s damn good. Didn’t say otherwise.

[musicman]

All good comments, both ways. My only point is he did this today with no real #1 WR, no starting 1000+ yard RB, his highest paid lineman out and a defense that had trouble stopping anybody. Give him at least a weapon (like Higgins) and a defense that can be at least middle of the road and he has the tools and a OC/HC that has some structure and play calling skills (DC has a way to go to be real good, but he did make Bryce better) to win and come from behind. 

I talked with Bryce Friday afternoon. He just looks comfortable and more confident, which probably comes from structure. The more he learns this offense, the better I know he'll be. Consistency is greatness.