QB stock market - week 18

[Jackson113.2]

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1 hour ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

It depends on if you're just talking about this season. If so, you can make a solid argument for Bryce over Stroud. If you're taking last season into account as well, Stroud has the edge.

Also, lol @ Aaron Rodgers 

2024

Stroud 19 td  12 int

Young 12 td  9 int

Youngs having a better year?

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2 hours ago, frankw said:

No context or reasoning for the placement.

But Bryce Young and Michael Penix Jr have a higher stock than CJ Stroud?

We'll see how that take ages.

I've always thought that Penix was a baller. If Penix were a stock, I'd absolutely buy him over Young and Stroud.

[Ricky Prickles]

Spencer Rattler with the Aints is a rookie and going to make rookie mistakes but I believe he will develop into a very decent QB soon down the line. Too bad he is with those water heads down in "Nawlins"

[fanpanther]

1 hour ago, Shotgun said:

2024

Stroud 19 td  12 int

Young 12 td  9 int

Youngs having a better year?

Also stroud in playoffs 2 years in a row. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

3 hours ago, NAS said:

Henry McKenna shares his point in time rankings heading into the last week of the regular season.  Full link here https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/qb-stock-market-week-18-mvp-no-ones-talking-about

1. Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals (+ 3)
2. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens (-1)
3. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills (-1)
4. Jared Goff, Detroit Lions (- 1)
5. Sam Darnold, Minnesota Vikings (↔)

6. Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs (+ 1)

7. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers (- 1)
8. Jayden Daniels, Washington Commanders(+ 1)
9. Baker Mayfield, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (+ 3)
10. Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers (- 2)
11. Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams (- 1)
12. Geno Smith, Seattle Seahawks (+3)
13. Bo Nix, Denver Broncos (+ 3)

14. Bryce Young, Carolina Panthers (+ 3)
15. Brock Purdy, San Francisco 49ers (+5)
16. Russell Wilson, Pittsburgh Steelers (- 2)
17. Michael Penix, Atlanta Falcons (+ 7)
18. Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals (+ 2)
19. C.J. Stroud, Houston Texans (- 1)

20. Joe Flacco, Indianapolis Colts (new)
21. Drake Maye, New England Patriots (+ 1)

22. Kenny Pickett, Philadelphia Eagles (new)
23. Tyler Huntley, Miami Dolphins (new)
24. Drew Lock, New York Giants (+8)
25. Caleb Williams, Chicago Bears (- 2)
26. Mac Jones, Jacksonville Jaguars (+ 3)
27. Aidan O'Connell, Las Vegas Raiders (↔)
28. Spencer Rattler, New Orleans Saints (+ 2)
29. Aaron Rodgers, New York Jets (- 3)
30. Cooper Rush, Dallas Cowboys (-5)
31. Mason Rudolph, Tennessee Titans (-3)
32. Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Cleveland Browns (- 1)

Well, I'm convinced. Bryce is the real deal 

[Icege]

Top 15 QB?

[Aussie Tank]

2 minutes ago, Icege said:

Top 15 QB?

With the worst receiving core in the NFL 

[MasterAwesome]

17 hours ago, Shotgun said:

2024

Stroud 19 td  12 int

Young 12 td  9 int

Youngs having a better year?

First 8 games: 

Stroud: 11 total TDs, 4 Int

Young (first 5 games due to benching): 3 total TDs, 5 Int

Last 8 games:

Stroud: 8 total TDs 8 Int

Young: 13 total TDs 4 Int

Do people not understand the implication behind a QB's "stock"?  Or what "trend" means?  This is a lot more relevant of a statistical breakdown when we're talking about stock.  I've yet to see a single article proclaim Bryce > Stroud.  These comparisons, as of late, are always framed around Bryce trending up and Stroud trending down.  But the gap between the two after their rookie seasons was monumental.  So while Bryce may be taking steps to close the gap, he still has a lot of ground to make up before he even sniffs Stroud in the broader conversation.

I've poked around a few sites for overall QB power rankings and they all have Stroud at the 14-17 range and Bryce in the low 20's, which seems pretty fair to me.

[NAS]

24 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

First 8 games: 

Stroud: 11 total TDs, 4 Int

Young (first 5 games due to benching): 3 total TDs, 5 Int

Last 8 games:

Stroud: 8 total TDs 8 Int

Young: 13 total TDs 4 Int

Do people not understand the implication behind a QB's "stock"?  Or what "trend" means?  This is a lot more relevant of a statistical breakdown when we're talking about stock.  I've yet to see a single article proclaim Bryce > Stroud.  These comparisons, as of late, are always framed around Bryce trending up and Stroud trending down.  But the gap between the two after their rookie seasons was monumental.  So while Bryce may be taking steps to close the gap, he still has a lot of ground to make up before he even sniffs Stroud in the broader conversation.

I've poked around a few sites for overall QB power rankings and they all have Stroud at the 14-17 range and Bryce in the low 20's, which seems pretty fair to me.

Exactly, Bryce is a growth stock right now compared to someone like Stroud whose growth slowed down this year but he is still offering solid dividends (e.g. playoffs) and his overall price is still much higher. 

Edited Thursday at 03:10 PM by NAS

[Krovvy]

18 hours ago, Shotgun said:

2024

Stroud 19 td  12 int

Young 12 td  9 int

Youngs having a better year?

Young also has like 4 rushing touchdowns this year, which I don't think Stroud has.

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6 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Young also has like 4 rushing touchdowns this year, which I don't think Stroud has.

I didn’t include either of their rushing tds or their turnovers from fumbles. 

Edited Thursday at 03:12 PM by Shotgun

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27 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

First 8 games: 

Stroud: 11 total TDs, 4 Int

Young (first 5 games due to benching): 3 total TDs, 5 Int

Last 8 games:

Stroud: 8 total TDs 8 Int

Young: 13 total TDs 4 Int

Do people not understand the implication behind a QB's "stock"?  Or what "trend" means?  This is a lot more relevant of a statistical breakdown when we're talking about stock.  I've yet to see a single article proclaim Bryce > Stroud.  These comparisons, as of late, are always framed around Bryce trending up and Stroud trending down.  But the gap between the two after their rookie seasons was monumental.  So while Bryce may be taking steps to close the gap, he still has a lot of ground to make up before he even sniffs Stroud in the broader conversation.

I've poked around a few sites for overall QB power rankings and they all have Stroud at the 14-17 range and Bryce in the low 20's, which seems pretty fair to me.

I was responding to a post that said Young was having a better season than Stroud.

[X-Clown]

15 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

With the worst receiving core in the NFL 

Patriots are worse. Their high second round pick and fourth round picks combined have less yards than Coker who was a UDFA.