Canales still believes in Evero

[SmokinwithWilly]

42 minutes ago, Martin said:

Evero doesn’t believe in the monster NT, his system wants a smaller guy. I don’t get it, but it is what it is 

He's about to have the worst defense in NFL history and our run defense was ass even when Brown was healthy. Even if he were to be smaller, he has to be a monster in the middle. Anything less and hes getting blown off the LoS. He's been influential in getting his type of players and this is the result. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

Both years Evero has been here the defense has been a sieve against the run. 

[La Pantera]

8 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Both years Evero has been here the defense has been a sieve against the run. 

I believe that goes back to his time with Den as well.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Evero is not the problem. Anybody with a clear eye can see he has nothing to work with. Name me a decent player besides Horn and Clowney?

 

You need talent to be successful as a coach. This is for every sport.

I agree he isn't "the problem" but I do think he isn’t exactly making the problems better.

I would put the blame about 80% on the front office and 20% on Evero.

[jb2288]

31 minutes ago, LelouchBritannia said:

If people think we have the worst talent in nfl history on defense then MAYBE I can see giving evero SOME slack. We are close to being statistically the worst defense in nfl history and no matter how you look at it coaching is a part of that.

The roster we fielded Sunday was pretty close. Evero has some stuff the drives me crazy he needs to clean up, but I can’t fault him for this past weekend. We were way past the tipping point of having so little talent no amount of scheme and coaching could fix it 

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

I believe that goes back to his time with Den as well.

No, they were actually a top 10 run defense with him.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/EverEj0.htm

With Vance Joseph they have finished 30th and 8th.

Edit: Read the wrong part of the table initially 

Edited Wednesday at 05:29 PM by kungfoodude

[kungfoodude]

33 minutes ago, LelouchBritannia said:

If people think we have the worst talent in nfl history on defense then MAYBE I can see giving evero SOME slack. We are close to being statistically the worst defense in nfl history and no matter how you look at it coaching is a part of that.

It's the worst defensive roster in the history of this franchise that spans 30 years. I would say that is quite the accomplishment by the FO.

[CamWhoaaCam]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

I agree he isn't "the problem" but I do think he isn’t exactly making the problems better.

I would put the blame about 80% on the front office and 20% on Evero.

My thing is people were viewing him as the only bright spot from the 23-24 season. Coming into the season he was viewed as a legit DC with upside to possibly get a HC job.

 

Now we flipped on him after 1 season in which he literally had nothing to work with. All this change is cool, but I would prefer we try to create some stability with the coaching staff. Get some talent on defense and let's see what Evero can do in year 3. If he doesn't improve with better talent then we can move on. I would hate to lose him and he go balls out with a better defensive roster with another team.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

My thing is people were viewing him as the only bright spot from the 23-24 season. Coming into the season he was viewed as a legit DC with upside to possibly get a HC job.

 

Now we flipped on him after 1 season in which he literally had nothing to work with. All this change is cool, but I would prefer we try to create some stability with the coaching staff. Get some talent on defense and let's see what Evero can do in year 3. If he doesn't improve with better talent then we can move on. I would hate to lose him and he go balls out with a better defensive roster with another team.

I generally don't think he is likely to be a "great" DC, but he could be in the above average to below average band. 

I don't care if we jettison him that much but have a plan to improve if that is what you want to do. A better candidate(for sure) and a better roster. If both of those aren't on the table, what is the point?

[Jon Snow]

I don't know what to make of that stance. It's hard for me to believe they would keep a coordinator with a historically bad defense regardless of the circumstances behind it. Those are his hand picked players save for the 2 best players on defense he inherited. 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Jmac said:

Says he still believes in Evero and his 3-4 scheme. Sounds like he is backing his coordinator. Do you think it was a matter of personal for the failures? Are you all willing to give him another shot with upgraded players? Who would actually make the choice if he says or goes?

It’s coach speak.  Evero is finishing out the season.  Which is the right move considering they forced him to stay in the spot. 

Evero is walking out that door after Sunday 

[kungfoodude]

A look at Denver before, during and after Evero.

Ed Donatell

2020

Passing Yds: 16th

Rushing Yds: 25th

Total Yds: 21st

Points: 25th

2021

Passing Yds: 8th

Rushing Yds: 15th

Total Yds: 8th

Points: 3rd

Evero

2022

Passing Yds: 12th

Rushing Yds: 10th

Total Yds: 7th

Points: 14th

Vance Joseph

2023

Passing Yds: 22nd

Rushing Yds: 30th

Total Yds: 29th

Points: 27th

2024

Passing Yds: 25th

Rushing Yds: 8th

Total Yds: 15th

Points: 5th

[pantherclaw]

Our defense needs more talent.  Period. 

Switching back to a 4-3, while it is my preferred defense, is going to require even more talent. 

Draft talent. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

52 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

I believe that goes back to his time with Den as well.

Good passing defense but a terrible run defense seem to be his MO. It is definitely the scheme.