Hot Take: This team will never get over the hump, until we move on from Bryce.

[Khyber53]

2 hours ago, NAS said:

Ah yes back to the keep swinging until you get an elite QB is the strategy of decades long loser franchises like Jets and Browns who have proven that even when you do have a good or great QB you likely won’t even know it because you lack the program culture and strategy to be successful . 

Chasing QBs never works. How many QBs have the Jets and Browns drafted and failed miserably?  Bengals didn’t know Burrow would be this good (many were skeptical of his one great year at LSU, or Ravens with Lamar, Chargers with Herbert, and especially Bills with Allen.  A bad franchise would have cut ties with Allen after his first 16-25 games when he looked terrible.  

You could call it luck and that’s not a strategy.  Tepper thought he could play god and create his own luck by outsmarting everyone else and it’s failed miserably. He seems to have finally humbled himself and hopefully understand that it’s most important to build the right culture and build a roster with an actual program philosophy of what you want the team to be.  you focus on evaluating talent, drafting well including QBs, and ensure it’s a developmental environment where good becomes great, and great can become elite. 

It is not time to cut ties with Bryce, you have to at least give it another year, maybe draft another prospect in later rounds if they’re BPA and continue to build.  As others have said it’s been 10 years since we knew what a hump even looks like and we’re not even close to it.

This ^ 100 percent. 

[fanpanther]

4 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

Short fields help with the defense Cam had. Plus Cam had better weapons just not Oline 

What better weopons?  He had a great te.  Next what gin at wr?  B young has had a top 10 oline this year top 10 rb wrs overall have been average althoigh put at on chiefs and he is dominating te has been below average. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

6 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

The last few seasons we've seen unprecedented Qb play. Allen, Jackson,  MaHomes, Burrow to name few. We move up to 1# to pick a micro Teddy Bridgewater. Burrow had at least 250 yards and 3 Tds the last 8 games ,and over 400 tonight.  Y'all get giddy if Bryce throws over 100 yards.  This is unacceptable in today's NFL.  

Face the facts, we need to move on.

Bro find another team. You make the fanbase look bad. Go root for your elite QB. Nobody is forcing you to stay here and watch Bryce.

 

Bryce Up Son

[Jon Snow]

Lol, hot take.

[CPF4LIFE]

Nah....he just doesn't have enough weaponz

[BullCityP]

5 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

Prime Cam did more with less, so don't give me that no weapons crap.

Cam has NEVER played with talent level this poor around him lol. And if you think so PLEASE name the season and we can compare players 

[CamWhoaaCam]

5 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

Prime Cam did more with less, so don't give me that no weapons crap.

Cam is a 1 of 1.

 

Humble yourself kid.

[CmC2k]

5 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

Prime Cam did more with less, so don't give me that no weapons crap.

and his career was cut short because of it. By the time he finally got a really good core of weapons around him in 2018 his shoulder was shot, and it was a ticking time bomb before the TJ Watt hit the hit from Watt just sealed his faith. 

Cam was the most physically imposing QB that the league has ever seen and instead of trying to build around him and give him the pieces he needed to succeed long term this organization used it as a crutch for their own roster mismanagement and team building incompetence. 

The jury is still out on if Bryce can be the QB long term but the primary goal of this organization should still be setting Bryce up for the best chance to succeed.  

[45catfan]

6 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

Hot take every QB would struggle with Thielen as thier No1 

Thielen isn't the problem, maybe the other WRs, so your point missed the target.   Dalton looked bad once Adam got injured.  When he came back a month later and Bryce was the QB, the passing game got better.

[Tr3ach]

3 hours ago, NAS said:

Ah yes back to the keep swinging until you get an elite QB is the strategy of decades long loser franchises like Jets and Browns who have proven that even when you do have a good or great QB you likely won’t even know it because you lack the program culture and strategy to be successful . 

Chasing QBs never works. How many QBs have the Jets and Browns drafted and failed miserably?  Bengals didn’t know Burrow would be this good (many were skeptical of his one great year at LSU, or Ravens with Lamar, Chargers with Herbert, and especially Bills with Allen.  A bad franchise would have cut ties with Allen after his first 16-25 games when he looked terrible.  

You could call it luck and that’s not a strategy.  Tepper thought he could play god and create his own luck by outsmarting everyone else and it’s failed miserably. He seems to have finally humbled himself and hopefully understand that it’s most important to build the right culture and build a roster with an actual program philosophy of what you want the team to be.  you focus on evaluating talent, drafting well including QBs, and ensure it’s a developmental environment where good becomes great, and great can become elite. 

It is not time to cut ties with Bryce, you have to at least give it another year, maybe draft another prospect in later rounds if they’re BPA and continue to build.  As others have said it’s been 10 years since we knew what a hump even looks like and we’re not even close to it.

Even if you're in the swing for elite qb till you get one.  What swing could they take this offseason.  There is no better potential option than Bryce for next season.

[NAS]

8 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Even if you're in the swing for elite qb till you get one.  What swing could they take this offseason.  There is no better potential option than Bryce for next season.

Agreed.  But this made me think of Bears drafting Caleb when they had Justin Fields or Jets drafting Wilson when they had Darnold.  In both cases these teams gave up  too early.  

[NAS]

19 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Thielen isn't the problem, maybe the other WRs, so your point missed the target.   Dalton looked bad once Adam got injured.  When he came back a month later and Bryce was the QB, the passing game got better.

Thielen is not the problem but the point is he’s our best receiver and would be #3 at best on good teams. 

Edited December 29, 2024 by NAS

[Ricky Spanish]

OP is a silly goose

[Call Me James]

Unless we're signing him to an extension I'm not sure anyone is saying he's the answer