Tee Higgins

[Aussie Tank]

4 minutes ago, Shocker said:

LOL, he would cost our first at least.  Wilson is a beast and a true #1

A first sure but not ours too early. Go the CMC route more latter round picks that add up to value. Better receivers have been traded for a 1st straight up 

Edited December 29, 2024 by Aussie Tank

[Zaximus]

I really think we either need to pay him or try to get Wilson from the Jets.  We need a dependable WR 1 and I don't trust this FO to draft one successfully.  I just see more projects like XL because "dude has that dawg in him" type thing.   I do like TMac but I think he'll be gone.  I would feel much comfortable going into next year without Thielen being our best receiver (no hate to Adam, would love if he's our #2 and helps develop the other guys). 

[Tomcatn]

he's not coming here 

[Bear Hands]

The AFS had the Cincy beat guy on the other week and were talking how the Bengals can actually afford him and Chase. They have like nothing allocated defensively and Burrow wants him back.

That entire team has no one to pay outside Burrow and Chase. Logan Wilson? There’s no one.

And the Pats will be going hard after him with an ungodly amount of cap.

[CamWhoaaCam]

7 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

The AFS had the Cincy beat guy on the other week and were talking how the Bengals can actually afford him and Chase. They have like nothing allocated defensively and Burrow wants him back.

That entire team has no one to pay outside Burrow and Chase. Logan Wilson? There’s no one.

And the Pats will be going hard after him with an ungodly amount of cap.

Patriots definitely seem like the frontrunner. Maye looks legit and they been searching for a WR for years.

[Gapanthersfan]

I like Higgins, but I like locking up our home grown talent in Horn better. Finding a top 5 cover CB that plays the run like a DAWG is immensely more challenging than finding a #1 WR.

Higgins can help the team chase the points they’ll need if the defense continues to play like it does. They shouldn’t have to score 30+ every game to give them a chance to win. I’m also tired of KNOWING an L is eminent when the other team runs its 2 minute offense to close the game out. 

Higgins is a baller and is a #1 wr, no doubt, but resources are desperately needed on defense. 
 

[ChuckWag78]

Who here remembers Peerless Price?

He was the #2 WR in Buffalo behind Eric Moulds. He looked incredible in BUF for years in that role, and the Falcons ended up paying him a HUGE (for the time) contract to be their #1 guy. He could not live up to that hype, and was wildly considered a mistake/bust in ATL. 

That is all I can think about when I look at Higgins. Someone is going to throw 30M+ at him and I don't think he will live up to those expectations.  

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Bear Hands said:

The AFS had the Cincy beat guy on the other week and were talking how the Bengals can actually afford him and Chase. They have like nothing allocated defensively and Burrow wants him back.

That entire team has no one to pay outside Burrow and Chase. Logan Wilson? There’s no one.

And the Pats will be going hard after him with an ungodly amount of cap.

Their defense sucks, however, and I imagine they will invest in it---

[MHS831]

5 minutes ago, ChuckWag78 said:

Who here remembers Peerless Price?

He was the #2 WR in Buffalo behind Eric Moulds. He looked incredible in BUF for years in that role, and the Falcons ended up paying him a HUGE (for the time) contract to be their #1 guy. He could not live up to that hype, and was wildly considered a mistake/bust in ATL. 

That is all I can think about when I look at Higgins. Someone is going to throw 30M+ at him and I don't think he will live up to those expectations.  

Good example. If you switch from the #2 role to the #1 role, you get the attention of the defense.  You get the top CB a lot.  You are the first read a lot--giving you less time to get separation.  It is a different animal than #2.  You go from Robin to Batman.

Edited December 29, 2024 by MHS831

[WhoKnows]

13 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

Worked for our new guards 

We're still 4-11 and we only beat the Raiders, Giants, Saints and those lovable Cardinals who can never beat us.

Blowing through the cap every year is not how you get a real contender. It covers up the horrible drafting and gets us a couple wins more than the worst team. We say the OL is fixed after all that money and yet a bad Dak-less Cowboys exposes our bad drafting and demolishes our OL from the center out.

What does Higgins get us? No cap space and 5 maybe 6 wins?

Until we start building through the draft we are going to keep spending all our cap space and by the time we sign some DL and say our DL is fixed, Lewis and Moton will be gone and the OL will be a problem again. We need to rollover cap space and actually draft well. Once we have a couple good drafts then you have the money to fill in the holes with top FAs.

[WhoKnows]

10 minutes ago, ChuckWag78 said:

Who here remembers Peerless Price?

He was the #2 WR in Buffalo behind Eric Moulds. He looked incredible in BUF for years in that role, and the Falcons ended up paying him a HUGE (for the time) contract to be their #1 guy. He could not live up to that hype, and was wildly considered a mistake/bust in ATL. 

That is all I can think about when I look at Higgins. Someone is going to throw 30M+ at him and I don't think he will live up to those expectations.  

Alvin Harper as well. #2 to Irvin and he looked great and signed a big deal with Washington. Same results. Not saying Higgins isn’t good, he is but the assumption that he can carry this team with Bryce, not Burrow, throwing to him is very risky. His price tag just went up and we’d have to overpay. He could be good and still never match up to what we’d pay because he’s not JJ or Chase.

[MHS831]

Not related, but interesting. I am not sure I would be happy in this draft with the #1 overall pick knowing that I needed a QB.  I have more confidence in Ward than Sanders, but, in my opinion, neither is ready to play in 2025.

Edited December 29, 2024 by MHS831

[WhoKnows]

23 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Not related, but interesting. The Giants are the only 2-win team.  Due to the Giants' strength of schedule, it is possible for them to win 1 game and drop to seventh in the draft.

Having said that, I am confident the Giants will not win another game. 

Having said that, I am not sure I would be happy in this draft with the #1 overall pick knowing that I needed a QB.  I have more confidence in Ward than Sanders, but, in my opinion, neither is ready to play in 2025.

Giants play Philly next week. If Detroit and Minnesota win today one of them is the #1 seed and Philly is #2 with a win over Dallas. I’d expect all 3 to win today but even if Minnesota loses to GB, Detroit winning clinches the NFC North and the one seed with a better division record (over Minnesota) and conference record (over Philly).

Philly most likely has nothing to play for next week against the Giants. I’d sit my starters with no bye.

Same applies to NE against the Bills next week but we beat AZ to make that a moot point. Had we lost last week, we actually had a legit shot at #1 with teams resting if Jax beat Tennessee. That would have been great for us as we could have gotten some decent picks from the Giants or Raiders or Browns or Tennessee or anyone else that wanted a QB. The drop in the 1st wouldn’t have been big either.

It was fun to win but like the 2020 and 2021 drafts, we could easily have missed out on a team changing pick.

Edited December 29, 2024 by WhoKnows

[CmC2k]

53 minutes ago, ChuckWag78 said:

Who here remembers Peerless Price?

He was the #2 WR in Buffalo behind Eric Moulds. He looked incredible in BUF for years in that role, and the Falcons ended up paying him a HUGE (for the time) contract to be their #1 guy. He could not live up to that hype, and was wildly considered a mistake/bust in ATL. 

That is all I can think about when I look at Higgins. Someone is going to throw 30M+ at him and I don't think he will live up to those expectations.  

You bring up a good point but Higgins played well as the #1 his rookie year before chase got there and I'm sure he's developed since then, so it'll definitely be interesting to see what he can do when he's the main guy somewhere. 

If we can get him for somewhere between what Michael Pittman Jr got in 23 million to what DJ Moore got in 28 million dollars a year, then I'd be ok with that. If he comes out asking for 30 million plus, then he can go have fun in New England for that type of money.