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38 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Mid to late is the time to gamble on a QB but I honestly wouldn't.

Take a gamble on an OL/DL/special teams guy which actually fill a big need. 

It's cheap and easy to get a mediocre 3rd string QB every offseason.

I'd be looking at mid to late round QBs every single draft simply because the potential ROI is so high. Hell, even if I have an entrenched starter and backup that wouldn't change the equation. Hit on one and I'd trade my entrenched backup to a desperate team and now I have a quality backup in a rookie contract to protect cap space and a potential asset to trade down the road or hell even develop into a starter if my starter is aging or has a career detailing injury or maybe the young guy simply proves to be better at some point. Once you get the the 4th or 5th round you're basically throwing darts at the board hoping to hit on something at that point. Most of those guys will prove to not be long for the league anyway.  I'm not saying reach on a guy just because he's a QB but if I have similarly rated prospects on the board and we're talking about a FB, a blocking TE, and a  OG with limited upside, well that's a no brainer to me. Roll the dice on the QB.

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12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'd be looking at mid to late round QBs every single draft simply because the potential ROI is so high. Hell, even if I have an entrenched starter and backup that wouldn't change the equation. Hit on one and I'd trade my entrenched backup to a desperate team and now I have a quality backup in a rookie contract to protect cap space and a potential asset to trade down the road or hell even develop into a starter if my starter is aging or has a career detailing injury or maybe the young guy simply proves to be better at some point. Once you get the the 4th or 5th round you're basically throwing darts at the board hoping to hit on something at that point. Most of those guys will prove to not be long for the league anyway.  I'm not saying reach on a guy just because he's a QB but if I have similarly rated prospects on the board and we're talking about a FB, a blocking TE, and a  OG with limited upside, well that's a no brainer to me. Roll the dice on the QB.

I could see that minus the league's worst roster that we have. We literally need everything from special teamers to starters. The hit rate on other positions in later rounds is far higher than QB. 

Eventually once you get an actual talented roster, take a flier on a guy every couple of seasons or so.

I mean the examples of a 4th rounder or later panning out into a regular starter since 2000 are basically Purdy, Minshew, Prescott, Cousins, Tyrod Taylor, Fitzpatrick, Kyle Orton, Matt Cassell, Derek Anderson, David Garrard, Tom Brady, and Marc Bulger. So that is essentially less than one hit every two years from the 4th to 7th round. 

We just aren't in a position to make wild swings yet.

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9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I could see that minus the league's worst roster that we have. We literally need everything from special teamers to starters. The hit rate on other positions in later rounds is far higher than QB. 

Eventually once you get an actual talented roster, take a flier on a guy every couple of seasons or so.

I mean the examples of a 4th rounder or later panning out into a regular starter since 2000 are basically Purdy, Minshew, Prescott, Cousins, Tyrod Taylor, Fitzpatrick, Kyle Orton, Matt Cassell, Derek Anderson, David Garrard, Tom Brady, and Marc Bulger. So that is essentially less than one hit every two years from the 4th to 7th round. 

We just aren't in a position to make wild swings yet.

Not like upgrading our backup RB spot is going to make a dramatic difference. We need better talent, period. Definitely don't overlook the better talent because it happens to play by far the most valuable roster spot. Quite the opposite.

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7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not like upgrading our backup RB spot is going to make a dramatic difference. We need better talent, period. Definitely don't overlook the better talent because it happens to play by far the most valuable roster spot. Quite the opposite.

But that's basically my point. Take a guy that might make a difference. The 13th best QB is rarely going to be that guy. Now, if someone falls into your lap, that's fine. 

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13 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

But that's basically my point. Take a guy that might make a difference. The 13th best QB is rarely going to be that guy. Now, if someone falls into your lap, that's fine. 

And neither will the 13th best OG which is my point. You're throwing darts at the board hoping to get a hit on the late rounds.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The hurdle stuff is getting dumb. I get it when you're in the open field with one guy to beat and it's 3rd down. But trying to hurdle guys in a crowd where you might get an extra yard or two on an early down? C'mon, gotta be smarter than that. High risk, low reward 

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