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3 minutes ago, Icege said:

The answer is that his first two seasons his head coaches were David Culley and Lovie Smith. If the guys in Carolina suffered developmentally from the staffing churn then I'm sure Houston's guy had similar issues.

Plus Davis Mills sucks.

So what you're saying is that Bryce's rookie season was the OL's fault... ? I'm not understanding the point you're trying to make other than you hate that Bryce Young is the Panthers' QB1.

No..i never said that. It was clearly a combination of things. Bryce also didn't do his o line any favors in a lot of the sacks but non the less the o line was fixed and he still looked worse the first 2 weeks and then he was benched. 

Of course your not understanding my point, cuz you don't know how to take anybody being objective of Bryce since the day he got here. Thats nothing new.

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11 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Damn what has happened to Stroud? Tank Dell that good? I don’t care about the Texans so this is the first time I’ve watched them this year 

They've had a good bit of injuries to deal with this season. I'd say that's been a big part of it.

The team has not done well run-blocking wise according to PFF. They lost two subpar OL that overperformed last season (Deiter + Fant) and have two players that are playing better, but the interior OL still struggles. Stroud isn't playing as blessed as he was last season, but it's hard considering how many sacks he's taken this season.

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2 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

Texans had two starters on the O-line out today. Given how pass protection has been an issue for them this season already... yeah, results are kinda expected.

Also another big problem of having mid-week games; guys just don't get the time to get healthy enough to get back on the field.

Ahhh so basically us on offense last year. Know that feeling

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21 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Impossible to tell until they actually play in the NFL.  Until then, its just a guess.    

Yes, which is what everyone does every draft. As I stated, this draft appears to be a pretty big QB stinker.

Remember the notoriously poor class prediction on the 2022 QB class? Well as it stands only one of the QB's drafted(Mr. Irrelevant, Brock Purdy) is likely to see a second contract with his draft team. Literally every other QB drafted is on another team and a backup just two years later.

This draft isn't that far off, aside from perhaps Sanders and Ward.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I like Ward. I don't like the rest of the class. If we want to take a crack at a mid to late round guy I might be inclined to go with the GT kid. I don't know if he's an NFL QB but he's got that dog in him.

Mid to late is the time to gamble on a QB but I honestly wouldn't.

Take a gamble on an OL/DL/special teams guy which actually fill a big need. 

It's cheap and easy to get a mediocre 3rd string QB every offseason.

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      Stats don't always tell the story. Stroud has played better than Bryce both years. That is not arguable. Stroud has always had a better supporting cast than Bryce. That really is not arguable either.  Now if you really watched the games last season, you could tell Stroud was in a much better situation with regards to protection, playcalling and receivers. He was throwing to a lot of wide open guys with little to no pressure most times he dropped back. That gives you the confidence to stand in the pocket and trust your receivers when things get dirty. And those receivers were making big plays after the catch. I don't care what pressure statistics you're looking at, but when I watched the games, Bryce was constantly facing pressure with receivers that couldn't beat their men and playcalling that didn't scheme guys open enough. You had to give him a mulligan after that. And that was as a rookie. So Stroud is facing now what Bryce faced as a rookie with regards to pressure. In his second season, he should be better than rookie Bryce. They have weapons to spare over there in comparison to Carolina. Bryce may have benefited from such a tough rookie season, as he seems to thrive under pressure now. Teams are learning that you can't just blitz him any time you want anymore. He's finding the answers and making you pay. Stroud hasn't quite gotten there but he will. He just hasn't faced it to the degree that Bryce has, until recently. They're both good young QBs right now. Different. But good QBs right now. 
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