After Graham, next best Dline players

[CarolinaLivin]

6 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

In the end, it really depends who the next DC is and their scheme.

Don't sit over there and type with a straight face and say it's going to be Evero.

I seriously don't see us firing Evero. I would almost be shocked if we did. 

[Panthero]

7 hours ago, Shocker said:

We need edge LBs IMO.  I think Abdul Carter is a slightly better athlete but I fuggin love Jalen Walkers motor.  That guy plays all over and goes 100 every play.  From Salisbury as well.

Long term absolutely, but I dont think it's as pressing a need with clowney and wonnum performing well. Feel like WR and DT, and even CB, and even ILB may be more pressing needs given out recent free agent signings. 

[Jmac]

12 hours ago, Diehardpanth02 said:

Idk I wouldn't be so sure.

"On any given Sunday"

[CamWhoaaCam]

12 hours ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

We're getting Mason Graham dammit and I refuse to hear anything else

You realize Graham will be off the board by the time we pick?

 

When you win meaningless games at the end of the season this is how you miss out on the top prospects. After Hunter gets drafted Graham is going to be the next best prospect on the board. No chance he last past the #5 pick.

[Icege]

Great draft to go get help on the DL + EDGE. 

[PappyMay]

3 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You realize Graham will be off the board by the time we pick?

 

When you win meaningless games at the end of the season this is how you miss out on the top prospects. After Hunter gets drafted Graham is going to be the next best prospect on the board. No chance he last past the #5 pick.

Well if we lose out we very could be right back at 5. A Tennessee win at Jacksonville and a Raiders win in New Orleans this week would help us out. If we go win in Atlanta I wouldn’t be mad. Would love for Bryce to beat a young Penix in their dome

[Bear Hands]

12 minutes ago, Icege said:

Great draft to go get help on the DL + EDGE. 

EDGE is definitely deep, not so much high end talent you want to see annually, but a good amount of talent overall.  A lot of guys that could be in that JJ Jr, Byron Young, Tuli, Bonitto bracket that could blossom pretty quickly. 

A lot of interesting R2-3 targets - Jack Sawyer, Donavon Ez, Mike Green.  Bradyn Swinson is a mid to late rounder that intrigues me too.  

[SCO96]

21 hours ago, Adb6368 said:

It won’t fix our biggest issue but pairing Will Johnson with Jaycee horn is awfully tempting…

You know, that's not the ideal situation given all of our needs. But, if we could pick up a starter on defense in FA and nab 2 or 3  starters after the 1st round in the 2025 draft, I wouldn't be upset with that scenario.

If Brown comes back healthy we've already gained 1 starter on the line. Let's say we find a safety or LB in FA. MHS831 had a good break down on who should be available after day 1. If we found a starting DE and DT to add up front we'd be significantly better at every level of the defense.

 

Edited Tuesday at 04:01 PM by SCO96

[cmichd08]

On 12/23/2024 at 12:04 PM, cookinbrak said:

Abdul Carter is the one.

He didn't show me much in that win over SMU.

[cmichd08]

On 12/23/2024 at 12:42 PM, Crixtala said:

if Carter is still there, he's gotta be the guy at this point. don't love him at 4, but at 7? sure, pull the trigger

no Carter? Mykell Williams from Georgia

2nd round, I'm looking more and Deone Walker than the edges. If he's there to provide a big body in the middle, D Brown (if back healthy) should eat

I'm also enamored with Landon Jackson, simply on measurables. Seems more a hand in the dirt, 43 end than a 34 edge, but maybe he slides in a 34 DE on passing downs. Similar feelings (despite the crazy measurables) on Jack Sawyer.

If we're focusing on pass rushers from more of a stand up position, I'm also looking at Donovan Ezeiruaku and Kyle Kennard 

Then there's Dani Dennis-Sutton, Jared Ivey,I've, Mike Green and was watching Patrick Payton, but looks like he's headed to LSU instead of the draft

When we were picking 5 they had us going after Carter and Graham being picked at 7. Graham could still be there at 7. 

[KaijuGato]

I think the key is to draft BPA in whatever position we are going to be in. It would be nice to win out even if it is meaningless. It will allow us to know what winning feels like and let that roll over into next season. We lost close games to good teams, but that experience for these players and coaches. It’s creating culture and experience for this team and develops a winning mentality and not a tanking mind set. 
 

Needless to say the draft is deep on defense, maybe not top end talent, but enough talent to be day 1 starters to develop into top end talent. 

[scratched]

Lots of talk about DT and Edge at the top of our draft. And yes, I agree we need help there. But Safety is a very pressing need. It’s a great draft for safeties, and I think we have to think about safety in the 2nd or 3rd. Too many good ones for us to miss out! 

[Martin]

I think Graham will be there and will be our pick. The two QBs and Hunter will be gone. And there will be at least two standouts from the combine, and then all of a sudden Graham’s “short arms” will be an issue for teams. It happens every year

[SCO96]

23 hours ago, Martin said:

I think Graham will be there and will be our pick. The two QBs and Hunter will be gone. And there will be at least two standouts from the combine, and then all of a sudden Graham’s “short arms” will be an issue for teams. It happens every year

Current draft order

NYG, NE, JAX, TN, CLE, LV, CAR.

We need to ask ourselves "what is the biggest need of those teams heading into the draft"? And, "What positions do we know are not major needs for the teams above?"

JAX is terrible, but we know they won't be drafting a QB. The Patriots won't be either. The Raiders and Giants definitely need a QB. The Browns have one under contract, but he's been terrible since they signed him. I could see all 3 of them eyeing QB's.

Hunter is a wild card. He could be the first player taken. Or, he could slip because some teams may not want to deal with his insistence on playing both ways.

A team with a bad O-line may want to go LT

TMAC is going to appeal to a team that needs a playmaker at WR.

If CB is major need, I could see Will Thomas (or Hunter) coming off the board prior to our selection at #7.

It's possible that Graham could fall into our laps.

Then again we haven't factored FA into the equation. A lot of these teams will lure some players just because of the large amount of dollars they afford to play them and fix some needs before the draft.

It's going to be an interesting off-season.