After Graham, next best Dline players

[R0CKnR0LLA]

We're getting Mason Graham dammit and I refuse to hear anything else

[Basbear]

its still early, but it looks like 12 DL players will be in the top 25 ranks. Even 10 in the top 20. 

 

 

 

[Diehardpanth02]

3 hours ago, NAS said:

We’ll be back at pick #5.  We’re not good enough to beat the Bucs or Falcons away who are desperate and battling for the division.

Idk I wouldn't be so sure.

[Panthero]

6 hours ago, MHS831 said:

There are some good DTs (NT, 3 tech in this draft).  In my mocks, I take 2.  For that reason, I go edge in round 1.   WR you ask?  I look for those who run good routes and catch the ball cleanly.
If you had to choose right now, who would you keep on the roster--XL or Coker?  One was a first rounder, the other an UDFA.  So don't tell me there are no Wideouts to be found.  I can list 12 that would improve us...but you asked about DT--any of these in round 2 would be great---Grant (mich) Nolen (Ole Miss) Harmon (Ore), Williams (Ohio St), Walker (KY), Sanders (SC).  Sleeper?  Collins (Tex).   I love the DTs in this draft.

Edge?  ( I am discarding the Sam LB--holds the edge and plays run to pass--capable of moving down into the 3 tech--I think we have that on the roster in Wonnum, Johnson, Barno, etc.  I am looking for either a true pass rusher or a hybrid who can cover and rush from multiple positions--like Parsons from dallas)

After Carter, I really like jalen Walker from Georgia.I like Mike Green (Marshall) in round 2 or Jack Sawyer (Ohio State).  Sawyer is an excellent all around edge player with a great motor and bats down a lot of passes.  Finally, in round 2, I might take BC's Donnovan Ezeiruaku--he had 80 tackles at Boston College and 16.5 sacks.  who does that?  Princely Umanmelien (sp) from Ole Miss is highly rated, but I am not that high on him personally because I think he is a one-trick pony--sack artist.

In the third round, We could add another South Carolina edge--Kyle Kennard who is learning the position with success (11.5 sacks, 3 FF) but he is weak vs the run, imo.  In the third I'd rather have Bradyn Swinson from LSU who had over 50 tackles, 8.5 sacks. 

If we do not get Carter, I would trade back and grab Mike Green or Jalen Walker and grab a DT or two in round 2. 

 

[Panthero]

53 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

DT is one of the best positions in this draft, maybe the best.  Problem is I'd rather get edge in the first if it's the right person, but I'll take Graham in a heartbeat.  He is a disrupter.  And our second round pick has fallen back a great deal since it was once flirting with a top 10.

But there is a ton of talent that will go in the first at DT.

After Graham, Ken Grant out of Michigan.  339 pounds with quick hands and feet

Deone Walker, Kentucky.  very athletic at 345 lbs

Shemar Stuart Texas AM, 6'6 290

Walter Nolen Ole Miss  305

Derrick Harmon   Oregon 310

Omar Norman-Lott   Tennessee  315

TJ Sanders   Scar  290  better rusher than run defender

 

it's too early in the draft process to really say, but they could all be gone before our second pick.

 

I like corleone too. Probably more because of the name than I'm Willing to admit. 

[Captain Morgan]

7 minutes ago, Panthero said:

I like corleone too. Probably more because of the name than I'm Willing to admit. 

 

He's a playmaker.  I don't watch college games for the possible draftees much, but I tuned into a game that he was playing.  The announcers called his name so much they were laughing about it.  Think he has a serious med issue, maybe a heart problem, that he has overcome but is something that teams might think about

[jd12099]

Why Abdul Carter? Seen that they guy had gotten shut down by another NFL prospect at OT...

[Bear Hands]

1 hour ago, Captain Morgan said:

DT is one of the best positions in this draft, maybe the best.  Problem is I'd rather get edge in the first if it's the right person, but I'll take Graham in a heartbeat.  He is a disrupter.  And our second round pick has fallen back a great deal since it was once flirting with a top 10.

But there is a ton of talent that will go in the first at DT.

After Graham, Ken Grant out of Michigan.  339 pounds with quick hands and feet

Deone Walker, Kentucky.  very athletic at 345 lbs

Shemar Stuart Texas AM, 6'6 290

Walter Nolen Ole Miss  305

Derrick Harmon   Oregon 310

Omar Norman-Lott   Tennessee  315

TJ Sanders   Scar  290  better rusher than run defender

 

it's too early in the draft process to really say, but they could all be gone before our second pick.

 

Thanks for getting more names out there and actually fixed 3-4 DLs, not an edge who won’t be a 3-downer, flexing out in our sub packages.

There’s some good talent on the DL.

[ProcessBlue2]

In the end, it really depends who the next DC is and their scheme.

Don't sit over there and type with a straight face and say it's going to be Evero.

Edited 16 hours ago by ProcessBlue2

[ColumbusCounty]

Graham's motor paired with Brown would be overwhelming to block. At 7 he's gone but with a trade down I'd take Kenneth Grant. Similar outcome in time. 

At Edge.. Carter or Pearce Jr. 

Side note:If he's there in the 3rd, I'd take Mike Green .... very questionable competition but 17 sacks is still impressive. 

[Shocker]

We need edge LBs IMO.  I think Abdul Carter is a slightly better athlete but I fuggin love Jalen Walkers motor.  That guy plays all over and goes 100 every play.  From Salisbury as well.

[MHS831]

We could try a different approach on D--if you can get penetration up the middle, it makes your edge rushers better---a few of these 3 Techs are aggressive pass rushers--Not saying that is what I would do, but drafting a DE (3 tech) who can get after the passer, or a Sam OLB  who can move inside and create chaos could be better than drafting another Burns.  If we traded back and took Walker and a stud DT--we could be much more damaging than if we took an OLB who only rushes the QB---I am not sure how it might work...

It is kinda like the fact that we need a #1 WR.  However, in my view, if you drafted a WR who can get open, runs good routes and has good hands and a TE who can do the same, are we not better off (in this system)?  I dunno--just spitballing, but there are different ways to address a problem--gonna be a fun offseason.

[Shocker]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

 

It is kinda like the fact that we need a #1 WR.  However, in my view, if you drafted a WR who can get open, runs good routes and has good hands and a TE who can do the same, are we not better off (in this system)?  I dunno--just spitballing, but there are different ways to address a problem--gonna be a fun offseason.

I have cooled a little on a WR in the first.  Marvin Harrison Jr is way better than these guys and he has been good, but not great this season IMO.  I want defense so we can at least compete on that side.  WRs with some speed can be picked up little later.

[mav1234]

2 hours ago, Shocker said:

I have cooled a little on a WR in the first.  Marvin Harrison Jr is way better than these guys and he has been good, but not great this season IMO.  I want defense so we can at least compete on that side.  WRs with some speed can be picked up little later.

Same... I do think we should add a WR but I just think the greatest need is along the DL, which coincidentally we should be in perfect position to hopefully address.