Bryce Young PFF - Week 16

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Statistically, the deep game vs Philly would have been a little better had Leggette held on to the pass on the last drive.  

True. I was more referring to his target selection (and accuracy). But you're right that XL making that catch changes a lot.

[CRA]

12 minutes ago, BullCityP said:

So you're going to ignore the fact that the Cardinals have the better defense and outside weapons and just bring up Conner going down?? Oh ok lol the fact is Bryce has been going toe to toe with these guys with FAR superior talent (Chiefs Eagles Bucs Cardinals) but he doesn't get props for it for some reason like he's supposed to be dominating these guys with less talent it's weird 

Cardinals have a better defense.   It's not a good defense. 

Kyler has meh weapons.  Bryce has meh weapons and a great OL. 

literally every team has hung around with KC this year. It's not an achievement this year to do that.  They aren't playing good football.   They just can beat teams in the end.  Cardinals aren't some great team etiher.  But now vastly superior just for the sake of exaggerating Bryce?   Tampa isn't even good.  There record is built off of beating the bottom 4th of the NFL. 

 

 

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

literally every team has hung around with KC this year. It's not an achievement this year to do that.  They aren't playing good football.

It's true.  Betting against the spread in KC's games has basically been free money this year.  They're always favored but they never cover.

[Shotgun]

31 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

  Just evaluate him based on how he's playing NOW.

He looks a lot like Teddy B when he was in Minn.

[pantherclaw]

Pretty entertaining to read this thread even before the haters get involved. 

Every good point is given begrudgingly. 

[CarolinaLivin]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cardinals have a better defense.   It's not a good defense. 

Kyler has meh weapons.  Bryce has meh weapons and a great OL. 

literally every team has hung around with KC this year. It's not an achievement this year to do that.  They aren't playing good football.   They just can beat teams in the end.  Cardinals aren't some great team etiher.  But now vastly superior just for the sake of exaggerating Bryce?   Tampa isn't even good.  There record is built off of beating the bottom 4th of the NFL. 

 

 

Yeah we gotta stop trying to compare bryce to other QB's to try to talk him up.

Has Bryce been improving? Yes.

Has he lived up to his expectations yet? no. 

Bryce is going to get next year because of how much we gave up, where he was selected, and no for sure hit of a replacement being there for us to grab now. Regardless, we aren't a QB away. Do we need a QB? yes. But we won't be getting a top 10 QB this offseason. Continue letting him attempt to improve and make a decision in 2026 when he has either ended the conversation with more improvement or handed us his replacement via draft spot.

[BullCityP]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cardinals have a better defense.   It's not a good defense. 

Kyler has meh weapons.  Bryce has meh weapons and a great OL. 

literally every team has hung around with KC this year. It's not an achievement this year to do that.  They aren't playing good football.   They just can beat teams in the end.  Cardinals aren't some great team etiher.  But now vastly superior just for the sake of exaggerating Bryce?   Tampa isn't even good.  There record is built off of beating the bottom 4th of the NFL. 

 

 

MHJ and Trey McBride are meh weapons? Lol I would hate to see what you call Adam Theilen and Jalen Coker hahaha

[TD alt]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cardinals have a better defense.   It's not a good defense. 

Kyler has meh weapons.  Bryce has meh weapons and a great OL. 

literally every team has hung around with KC this year. It's not an achievement this year to do that.  They aren't playing good football.   They just can beat teams in the end.  Cardinals aren't some great team etiher.  But now vastly superior just for the sake of exaggerating Bryce?   Tampa isn't even good.  There record is built off of beating the bottom 4th of the NFL. 

 

 

The Chiefs aren't playing good football, but yet they keep beating teams in the end...and they're 14-1?

[mrcompletely11]

8 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cardinals have a better defense.   It's not a good defense. 

Kyler has meh weapons.  Bryce has meh weapons and a great OL. 

literally every team has hung around with KC this year. It's not an achievement this year to do that.  They aren't playing good football.   They just can beat teams in the end.  Cardinals aren't some great team etiher.  But now vastly superior just for the sake of exaggerating Bryce?   Tampa isn't even good.  There record is built off of beating the bottom 4th of the NFL. 

 

 

Plus the refs tipped the scale at least in the first half and the cards coach had a brain freeze for much of the game.  I mean a flea ficker on the first play against this defense? That should be a fireable offense.

 

The moral of this story should be that 5'10 qbs dont belong in this league as both dudes were having trouble seeing open wrs

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, BullCityP said:

MHJ and Trey McBride are meh weapons? Lol I would hate to see what you call Adam Theilen and Jalen Coker hahaha

arent they rookies?

[mrcompletely11]

18 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

There's really no point in getting worked up about Bryce.  We're not getting a top 2-3 pick to take a QB.  We'll probably sign someone in FA and/or draft someone late.  Bryce will most likely be the guy going into next season again while we continue to build the roster.

I don't see the point in getting attached to this guy, but I also don't see the point in arguing whether or not he's any good.  That decision doesn't have to be made now, and it won't be.  He'll get next year and our FO will have more information.

This really should simply end the discussion.  Yesterday didnt change the minds of anyone and it should change the process moving forward.  Bring in competition, keep upgrading the roster and see what year 3 brings.  My gut tells me however they are going to have a HUGE decision when it comes to that 5th year option.  Bryce is who he is at the moment and its a fringe 15-20 player.  And thats not really arguable.  Can he get better, maybe but he will always have his limitations and that is why I suspect Canales played coy with him all season until the car wreck. 

[ECHornet]

11 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cardinals have a better defense.   It's not a good defense. 

Kyler has meh weapons.  Bryce has meh weapons and a great OL. 

literally every team has hung around with KC this year. It's not an achievement this year to do that.  They aren't playing good football.   They just can beat teams in the end.  Cardinals aren't some great team etiher.  But now vastly superior just for the sake of exaggerating Bryce?   Tampa isn't even good.  There record is built off of beating the bottom 4th of the NFL. 

 

 

“Meh weapons” is being used like 3 star ratings for high school recruits here. 

[Davidson Deac II]

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

literally every team has hung around with KC this year. It's not an achievement this year to do that.  They aren't playing good football.   They just can beat teams in the end.  Cardinals aren't some great team etiher.  But now vastly superior just for the sake of exaggerating Bryce?   Tampa isn't even good.  There record is built off of beating the bottom 4th of the NFL. 

 

 

We did score more points against them than any other team, except for the one they lost.  

[45catfan]

Here it is in a nutshell:

Bryce bad=horrible team effort, Bryce did all he could

Bryce good= Look at what a great QB! He won in spite of his scrub team mates.