Winning pie

[Shotgun]

Eagles lost and Panthers won....fug yes!!!

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Watching the complete and utter meltdown of Cardinals fans on their forums right now is worth whatever draft spots we lost

[KSpan]

4 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Eagles lost and Panthers won....fug yes!!!

Eagles losses are definitely to be enjoyed, and Kenny Pickett at QB is some extra icing.

[chbright]

9 minutes ago, woahfraze said:

Note the second sentence of my post….

yeah the start of the rhule years with herbert vs teddy, thats easy. herbert on that 2020 team would have been just fine. what did we do after the teddy year, oh go out and spend picks on a broken Darnold, and then a year later, broken mayfield. yes we would have EASILY been better off with an actual QB with upside in 2020 vs all that crap we pulled. 

lets be real, herbert had poo coaches till this year out there with the chargers, so that coaching part, yeah he already has been screwed before. 

you are being obtuse on the importance of d brown vs j herbert and everything that followed

[woahfraze]

7 minutes ago, chbright said:

yeah the start of the rhule years with herbert vs teddy, thats easy. herbert on that 2020 team would have been just fine. what did we do after the teddy year, oh go out and spend picks on a broken Darnold, and then a year later, broken mayfield. yes we would have EASILY been better off with an actual QB with upside in 2020 vs all that crap we pulled. 

lets be real, herbert had poo coaches till this year out there with the chargers, so that coaching part, yeah he already has been screwed before. 

you are being obtuse on the importance of d brown vs j herbert and everything that followed

And look at what Darnold has done this year and how Mayfield has played in Tampa since leaving here. There is no way of knowing whether Herbert would have performed well here or if we would have ruined him. 

[tukafan21]

25 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Enjoy the win.

If you don't, get help because you need it.

I’d rather enjoy being a yearly contending team instead of enjoying meaningless late season wins in lost seasons, every single year.

We do this all the time, lost season, win a couple late season games, hurt our draft position, miss out on the players we really would have wanted, and repeat.

It’s how teams get stuck in NFL purgatory.  Never bad enough to get the true elite prospects that can change your franchise and never good enough to contend for the playoffs. 

Have you really enjoyed the last 5 or so seasons?  Does this one win really make you that happy to where it’s going to carry over to this point next year when we’re still not close to contending for the playoffs?

Edited 7 hours ago by tukafan21

[rayzor]

Just now, tukafan21 said:

I’d rather enjoy being a yearly contending team instead of enjoying meaningless late season wins in lost seasons, every single year.

We do this all the time, lost season, win a couple late season games, hurt our draft position, miss out on the players we really would have wanted, and repeat.

It’s how teams get stuck in NFL purgatory.  Never had enough to get the true elite prospects that can change your franchise and never good enough to contend for the playoffs. 

Have you really enjoyed the last 5 or so seasons?  Does this one win really make you that happy to where it’s going to carry over to this point next year when we’re still not close to contending for the playoffs?

I enjoy a win whenever we get one.

Winning is always better to than losing, and if you don't think so then you've got issues.

[ForJimmy]

9 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I enjoy a win whenever we get one.

Winning is always better to than losing, and if you don't think so then you've got issues.

100%. Winning is how you fix the culture. Winning is how you get prime time games. Look at the Lions in Campbell’s first year. Their 3 wins came late week 13, 15, and 18. He could have given two shits about draft positioning. 

[PappyMay]

Winning is always fun. Would love to do it one more time this year. There will still be a future pro bowler there at 8-9. Let’s just be the one who nails it. We have 10 picks already this year. 

[tukafan21]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

100%. Winning is how you fix the culture. Winning is how you get prime time games. Look at the Lions in Campbell’s first year. Their 3 wins came late week 13, 15, and 18. He could have given two shits about draft positioning. 

Because they still ended up with the 2nd pick of the draft and then got bailed out when the Jags didn’t take the best pass rusher in the draft anyways.

This win very well could end up costing us 4-6 spots in the draft depending how things close out.

Those two things are not the same

[tukafan21]

2 minutes ago, PappyMay said:

Winning is always fun. Would love to do it one more time this year. There will still be a future pro bowler there at 8-9. Let’s just be the one who nails it. We have 10 picks already this year. 

Having a playoff caliber team is fun.

Being 3-11 and winning a meaningless game in December if a lost season is t fun, it’s pointless.

What has been fun about us winning all these meaningless late season games over the last 5 years or so?

We do it every year, where has it gotten us?  Where is that winning culture everyone claims it leads to?

Thats why I can’t understand people saying that stuff, as it clearly has lead to helping turn this franchise around when we do it EVERY SEASON.  It’s not like we rarely do it. We literally have done it every season since the Cam years, we win late season games, hurt our draft position, miss out on elite players, and still suck the next year.

So please, tell me why this season is any different?

[PappyMay]

2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Having a playoff caliber team is fun.

Being 3-11 and winning a meaningless game in December if a lost season is t fun, it’s pointless.

What has been fun about us winning all these meaningless late season games over the last 5 years or so?

We do it every year, where has it gotten us?  Where is that winning culture everyone claims it leads to?

Thats why I can’t understand people saying that stuff, as it clearly has lead to helping turn this franchise around when we do it EVERY SEASON.  It’s not like we rarely do it. We literally have done it every season since the Cam years, we win late season games, hurt our draft position, miss out on elite players, and still suck the next year.

So please, tell me why this season is any different?

Every year there are stud players picked after our pick. There is talent in every round. Let’s just hope we can draft better with all our picks. Would even be fine trading a day 3 pick or two if means we have to move up in round 2 or 3. Can’t imagine having 10 rookies make the team.

[flagfootballcoach28]

3 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Having a playoff caliber team is fun.

Being 3-11 and winning a meaningless game in December if a lost season is t fun, it’s pointless.

What has been fun about us winning all these meaningless late season games over the last 5 years or so?

We do it every year, where has it gotten us?  Where is that winning culture everyone claims it leads to?

Thats why I can’t understand people saying that stuff, as it clearly has lead to helping turn this franchise around when we do it EVERY SEASON.  It’s not like we rarely do it. We literally have done it every season since the Cam years, we win late season games, hurt our draft position, miss out on elite players, and still suck the next year.

So please, tell me why this season is any different?

I agree with you man. Being able to draft a top tier player that will most likely gone now hurts a lot more than the enjoyment of a pointless win that will soon be forgotten about. 

[CBDellinger]

Great time at the game with my 14 yr old son today.  Glad we got to sing sweet Caroline to close out the year.  He had a blast.