All of Bryce’s weapons that left the team

[Jaxel]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

I’m not sure his roster is any better than Bryce’s was last year. NE is a pretty bad team. Coaching, sure he has more stability there. 

Not gonna lie thier coach sucks and I doubt he will be there more than another year if there isn't massive improvement.

[ForJimmy]

21 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

Not gonna lie thier coach sucks and I doubt he will be there more than another year if there isn't massive improvement.

I don’t doubt it, our staff apparently had a toxic environment and most were fired midseason. It’s hard to top that.

[NAS]

23 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

could see us taking a flyer on Cousins next year with Bryce and maybe a 2nd or 3rd round guy.

Cousins is cooked

[frankw]

47 minutes ago, NAS said:

If we judge him on his performance since he got benched.

How is one bad game two steps back if he progressed for 5-6 weeks straight?   

The issue is that performance is the bare minimum of what's expected from any starter. We talked up that Chiefs game to no end then Aidan O'Connell went out and put up an even more impressive game and outperformed Mahomes. Then he went out and had one of the ugliest games of the season against the Bucs. O'Connell is a backup at best. We don't have to like it but our first overall pick is in a similar boat.

[frankw]

21 minutes ago, NAS said:

Cousins is cooked

Something we can agree on

[Tr3ach]

1 hour ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Stop making these threads @NAS. We get it, you think Bryce is the future and you like to find blame elsewhere for his poor play. LET IT GO. You can stop trying.

It's better than constant posts to bash him.  Scrambling to the board even faster to do it when he has a good game to make sure to put a negative spin on it or say how it didn't matter.

[Tr3ach]

1 hour ago, raleigh-panther said:

Poor Bryce

Life is just so unfair 

sick of this justification 

#1 picks  should be a bit more than a game manager and a ‘point guard’   Totally stupid take by the Panthers 

Dont fret, he will have $38 million to make up for all the injustices he has endured 

He, his family and agent, all were  also smart enough to fleece the Gm and owner of the Panthers 

Bill Parcells said it best when said about Young as the number 1 pick given his ohysical limitations in a big man’s game 

‘he better walk in water’   He doesnt

i want Josh Allen, not a point guard who cant see over the line and cant throw a 50 yard pass to the end zone 

michah parson showed clearly what Young is  that Cowboys  defense had ZERO fear of Young’s arm   We have seen that since he has been here   

 

How many Josh Allen's are there?  I think every team's wants a Josh Allen.  There aren't many available very often.   Look at Stroud this season when his oline and receivers haven't played as well.

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

How many Josh Allen's are there?  I think every team's wants a Josh Allen.  There aren't many available very often.   Look at Stroud this season when his oline and receivers haven't played as well.

9 wins.  Winning the division.  Top 10 in yards.   Yeah he's been horrible 

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

9 wins.  Winning the division.  Top 10 in yards.   Yeah he's been horrible 

Yeah the "but Stroud sucks" deflection is honestly really embarrassing for our community. Anyone with eyes can see he still possesses the necessary traits of a franchise QB to keep them competing for the playoffs at minimum.

[NAS]

4 minutes ago, frankw said:

Yeah the "but Stroud sucks" deflection is honestly really embarrassing for our community. Anyone with eyes can see he still possesses the necessary traits of a franchise QB to keep them competing for the playoffs at minimum.

I don’t have any doubts Stroud is a franchise QB. Only points to make is that he wouldn’t look nearly as good on the Panthers due to lack of weapons, especially last year. Conversely Bryce would have done much better with the Texans and looked like a franchise QB but I don’t think he would have broken records like Stroud who is the better prospect overall. 

[frankw]

13 minutes ago, NAS said:

I don’t have any doubts Stroud is a franchise QB. Only points to make is that he wouldn’t look nearly as good on the Panthers due to lack of weapons, especially last year. Conversely Bryce would have done much better with the Texans and looked like a franchise QB but I don’t think he would have broken records like Stroud who is the better prospect overall. 

Respectfully I cannot agree with the assumptions being made here. One QB has always had the required phsyical traits and arm talent that popped off the tape. That will always translate to some degree no matter the situation. He would not have been an MVP candidate here but what he can do with his arm changes the way any defense approaches their gameplan. The other..well.. I'd say the best compliment we can give Bryce Young from a phsyical standpoint nearing the conclusion of his second season is he can surprisingly absorb a lot of hits given his size.

You can't even run a sneak with Bryce Young. Seriously.

Edited 10 hours ago by frankw

[csx]

7 hours ago, NAS said:

Diontae Johnson

DJ Chark

Jonathan Mingo

Terrace Marshall 

Laviska Shenault

Ihmir Smith Marsette

Hayden Hurst

With Bryce they had combined for 

127 rec, 1317 yds, 5 TD

Combined stats after Bryce

 21 rec, 163 yds, 0 TD

But yeah Bryce is the problem for not being a good enough point guard.  

Because they aren't playing now

[NAS]

Just now, csx said:

Because they aren't playing now

Exactly! What does that tell you?

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, NAS said:

Exactly! What does that tell you?

the front office sucks ass at putting a cast around him?  That they way over valued his "point guard" traits that elevates everyone around him.