Scott Fowler on game, Young, Panthers. Not wrong

[Johnstonny]

20 hours ago, mav1234 said:

I'm down waiting until next year given our draft position but I still think we need a QB out of this draft, even if it's developmental in 3rd/4th. Someone young and hungry.

....and prototypical, with the damn right analytics applied.

[TLGPanthersFan]

I am getting as annoyed with how people are willing to die on a hill for a short, physically weak QB. 
If the Panthers improve it will be in spite of Bryce not because of him. 
Also Chubba it wasn’t just one game. Bad Bryce has a much bigger sample size then one game. 
Bryce hasn’t earned the “one game” excuse. 

[mav1234]

24 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

....and prototypical, with the damn right analytics applied.

I haven't looked at all the QB prospects but maybe there's a historically undersized QB with bad fundamentals we can reach for

[PleaseCutStewart]

Can we just not trot a defense out on the field the last 3 weeks? Let's see what Bryce can do while making sure we lose our last 3 games

[raleigh-panther]

On 12/16/2024 at 10:39 AM, PadresPanthersFan said:

Progress isn't linear. I'm sure all the level headed huddlers know this. 

This was a big step back. No doubt. We had bad Bryce the first 2 games. Then good Bryce. Then bad Bryce showed up last game. Now imo the next few games will define his career. 

Will he brush this off and rise up? Or will he crumble and revert to bust Bryce. Honestly it's 50/50 to me right now

I see 3 losses

cards and bucs need to win 

…even the falcons,  who will have nothing to play for, and will probably start Pennix……falcons have always been  Kryptonite  for the Panthers 

I wish Young could be something he isn’t  and probably can never be…for all of us (players, fans, coaches and himself)

watching him crumble out there, with his eyes closed, no bueno

watching him not even be able to get the ball in the end zone to give Thielen a chance was awful

for what is worth, Canales needs to stop with the lateral play calls…aggravating…I wish he would bring a season play caller and keep his focus as HC

…whole lot of ‘a wishin and a hopin’

 

Edited yesterday at 07:39 PM by raleigh-panther

[Silent Majority]

The All 22 did him no favors. Just brutal.

[bandu]

On 12/16/2024 at 4:07 PM, MHS831 said:

I am surprised to hear Ewers might go back---I would not advise him to do it.   I do not like Milroe, but he needs another year, and NFL teams love that dual threat QB.  It all depends on what skill sets you need--if I am running a zone read out of Pistol, for example, maybe. 

I realize that he is not rated high, and I would not take him until day 3, but Rourke has a quick release, a lot of college experience, etc. He brought Indiana into relevance.  There is something there--he is my dark horse, late round QB.

  if the Panthers were able to draft Rourke  on day 3 i agree that that would be a solid choice for a latter round Qb ...just saying 

[Aussie Tank]

On 12/17/2024 at 2:58 AM, MHS831 said:

The solution, considering that we will not be drafting Ward or Sanders, is to draft a player like Ewers or Allar or Milroe in round 2. Only Ewers might be ready to start in 2025 if necessary--the others are developmental)  My preference? wait until rounds 3 or even 4 and draft a guy with tools who need to be coached up--Beck could be damaged goods who could use time to sit and watch and learn--Rourke is my favorite bargain basement QB whose skills match what we are doing.  Finally, we need a veteran backup who might want a shot at the starting gig.  Justin Fields comes to mind.  I think they wanted a mentor for Bryce, not a competitor, which is why Dalton was brought in.  Screw that--everyone competes--nothing is promised. 

I think Canales could do something with Fields.  If we had Fields, Young, and let's say Rourke on the roster, I would feel a bit better about the QB position. 

Yeah mate bring in Fields with Bryce and let the best man win. If they both aren't good enough draft a QB in 2026. Plus if Bryce does win the comp please bring Fields in for 2 QB packages 

[Aussie Tank]

19 hours ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Can we just not trot a defense out on the field the last 3 weeks? Let's see what Bryce can do while making sure we lose our last 3 games

We pretty much haven't had a defense all year 

[MHS831]

4 hours ago, bandu said:

  if the Panthers were able to draft Rourke  on day 3 i agree that that would be a solid choice for a latter round Qb ...just saying 

he is a sleeper--I am not good at predicting college QBs who succeed in the NFL, but this guy is going to change my luck.  I just think he'd be a good fit here.  4th round, maybe 5th.

[MHS831]

9 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Yeah mate bring in Fields with Bryce and let the best man win. If they both aren't good enough draft a QB in 2026. Plus if Bryce does win the comp please bring Fields in for 2 QB packages 

You are wise beyond your years to agree with me.  I think Fields is the free agent with the most upside---I mean, you keep looking until your franchise qb is on the roster-we are all hoping that Bryce will grab it, but he has not yet. 

[Hoenheim]

On 12/16/2024 at 11:00 AM, *FreeFua* said:

Allar just announced that he’s going back to school

That class next year is going to be loaded

Manning, Nico, Nuss, Allar 

I wouldn’t waste a pick on a QB and just see this through for another year 

Ewers is most likely going back as well but he’s ass so don’t matter

Why are people assuming Arch Manning would come out of college with only 1 year of starting at QB in college??? And a few games against nobodies this year when Quinn was injured lol

[mav1234]

3 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

Why are people assuming Arch Manning would come out of college with only 1 year of starting at QB in college??? And a few games against nobodies this year when Quinn was injured lol

I think it'll depend how well next year goes. If he's projected #1 overall because of pedigree and how well he does, why not?

[fanpanther]

On 12/16/2024 at 10:51 AM, raleigh-panther said:

’a few paragraphs from Scott below

With QB Bryce Young (4 turnovers) in full regression, Panthers get pummeled by Cowboys

BY SCOTT FOWLER

[email protected]

4hrs ago

The Carolina Panthers reminded everybody exactly how bad they can be Sunday, regressing into a team that clears out its home stadium in the third quarter because its own fans can no longer stand to watch.

Favored to win for the first time in 34 games, the Panthers instead lost, 30-14, to the Dallas Cowboys 

Quarterback Bryce Young, whose “Good Bryce, Bad Bryce” on-field persona has been well-established over the past two seasons, trotted out Bad Bryce for this one. Young committed a career-high four turnovers — losing two fumbles and throwing two interceptions.

The fumbles were the worst of the four turnovers, coming as they did to ruin a promising drive inside the red zone on Carolina’s very first possession and then on the first play from scrimmage in the third quarter when Carolina was only trailing 10-7.

The whole vibe felt very much like last season, as Young was sacked a season-high six times and the wrapping-paper thin

Carolina defense allowed 211 yards rushing, 199 yards passing and three touchdown passes to backup Dallas quarterback Cooper Rush

 

The biggest part of it is just the ball security, right?” Panthers coach Dave Canales said. “Making sure that we end the down with the ball.”

Sounds simple, but the Panthers did it poorly. Young threw to the wrong guy on one of his interceptions — trying to force the ball to a well-covered Adam Thielen instead of a wide open Ja’Tavion Sanders — and then badly underthrew his other one. The fumbles were partly because Dallas was overwhelming the Panthers’ offensive line, but also because Young wasn’t being careful enough with the ball.
 

It’s the NFL,” Hunt said. “You got to come ready to play or get embarrassed. … Hopefully this week will humble us a little bit.”

***from me, love Hunt but that statement is laughable 3 and 10 buddy, 3 and 10 ***

You would think the Panthers were already pretty humble, given that they came into the game 3-10. And now, consider:

▪ Carolina has missed the playoffs for seven seasons in a row (in other words, in every year of owner David Tepper’s tenure).

▪ Tepper’s overall record as the Panthers owner is 34-79.

▪ Bryce Young’s overall record as an NFL starter is 4-21.

But after a month’s worth of looking like he might be the answer, Young mostly looked Sunday like the sort of quarterback who makes you question everything about the team. Canales did say afterward that Young will start again next week, as Carolina plays its final home game of the season against Arizona on Dec. 22.

“One game doesn’t define you,” Hubbard said in Young’s defense. “He’s played great over the last how many weeks? Mistakes are going to be made. I mean, it’s the NFL. It’s not easy.”

Definitely true. Especially when your quarterback turns the ball over four times.

He should have said instead of "good bryce, bad bryce"  "ok to below average Bryce, horrific bryce"