Prime Cam Newton vs Current Josh Allen

[CRA]

7 hours ago, Partgod said:

When did Brady play for the Panthers? 
 

He didn’t! 
 

Cam beat Brady both times when he beat him as a Patriot. 

 

Brady didn’t ever beat Cam when he was the main Quarterback as Brady was in New England. 
 

 

I think some of that is Bill Belichick often struggled w/ QBs who play outside of a set structure and could ad lib.   Watson had a lot of success vs Bill.  Cam did.  Think Lamar has. 

[PleaseCutStewart]

Hard to say because Buffalo has had a much better oline and, prior to this year, much better WRs.

All I can say is that it was a crime with how little talent we gave Cam on offense after year 1. He had Olsen and a couple years of CMC and that is it... all while having a somewhat good oline for 1, maybe 2, years.

That being said, Josh Allen seems like a good dude and hope he does well. I can get behind Buffalo winning a Superbowl, especially since they have taken so much of our sloppy seconds the past 5ish years

[PleaseCutStewart]

20 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Josh Allen would've gotten his head turned into a piñata too. When a team is allowed to flat out target your QB in spite of the fact that targeting the head of the QB was THE officiating focus that season, what are you to do?

Well, in hindsight after the second or third one went uncalled one of our OL should've just taken Von Miller out. I'm not for dirty play but if the refs aren't going to protect your QB from dirty play then the OL needs to do their job and protect their QB. I just really don't believe they thought that the refs were going to flat out refuse to throw those flags all night long.

And add on retarded Mike Shula asking Remmers to block Von Miller 1-on-1 the entire game... Easily one of the worst called offenses I have ever seen in a Superbowl by an OC

[PleaseCutStewart]

16 hours ago, Johnstonny said:

Cam + an elite defense drug a rag tag offense to the superbowl...Allen has been given every weapon and still havent seen his azz in the SB....

Can't forget how dominant our defense was that year also

[outlaw4]

Allen is the better passer... but it took him at least 3 years to get there. Cam was working on that but the shoulder injury ended that effort. I'd give Cam the slight edge from a scrambling standpoint. Don't really factor in playoff success since there's outside factors at play. For example, Allen may have more on the offensive side to help him, but he doesn't have a Luke on defense.

Most importantly, however, is that I often find comparisons between current and former players to be a bit unfair. Current players are often inspired by who they idolized growing up and want to be much like them and, sometimes, end up being better than them.

[Smohn Jith]

On 12/16/2024 at 10:33 AM, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Allen. He is going to break all of Cam's records. And by "Cam's records", I mean the ones people use to say Cam was so great/different. But Allen has more tools than that. You won't hurt your Panther fandom to admit Allen is a better QB.

Today's game should be a reminder that, no. Just no.

 

But also, like Cam always says on his show "4th and 1, where I. ALWAYS. GOT. IT. DONE"

[Brooklyn 3.0]

15 minutes ago, Smohn Jith said:

Today's game should be a reminder that, no. Just no.

 

But also, like Cam always says on his show "4th and 1, where I. ALWAYS. GOT. IT. DONE"

LOL at you holding on to this post ... just waiting ... just praying. And yes, he'll still break Cam's records.

[t96]

Cam may not have won a SB but at least he got there

[Ricky Spanish]

6 hours ago, t96 said:

Cam may not have won a SB but at least he got there

He got there because Clete wasn't the ref until the super bowl.

Allen was unfortunate enough to get Clete to job him in the championship game (Allen got the first and there is no way in Hell that Worthy caught the jump ball).

[klumme]

Over a season Allen without a doubt and even more over a whole NFL life.

But give me a game of the very best Cam over any QB. Damn that dude was  a mf. 

[t96]

2 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

He got there because Clete wasn't the ref until the super bowl.

Allen was unfortunate enough to get Clete to job him in the championship game (Allen got the first and there is no way in Hell that Worthy caught the jump ball).

lame excuses

[CanadianCat]

Cam was a better runner. Allen is a better thrower. 

But this isn't an even trade.

 

Allen is a decent runner but is a much better thrower. 
Cam was a great runner but a poor thrower. 
 

I dont think this is controversial. 

Edited 4 hours ago by CanadianCat

[jamos14]

1 hour ago, CanadianCat said:

Cam was a great runner but a poor thrower. 
 

 

This is insane.  He was not a POOR thrower.

 

I'll give you that Allen is a better passer at this stage.  But your comment is extremely controversial and an insult to him.

 

[frankw]

Cam Newton always struggled with his accuracy at times but he often threw straight up dimes in his prime don't get it twisted and start making things up folks.