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Prime Cam Newton vs Current Josh Allen

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14 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Nobody is disrespecting Cam by saying it's Allen.  Just as nobody is saying Cam didn't change the QB position to allow guys like Allen to be given a chance and then flourish.

But I don't know how anyone can look at the stats between them and objectively say that Allen hasn't surpassed Cam in terms of being a better QB, even if he still needs a few more seasons to pass Cam's totals.

Cam played 48 more games than Allen, which is almost 3 full seasons, but Allen is only 6,000 yards passing behind Cam, only 1,500 yards rushing behind Cam, and already only 11 rushing TDs behind him as well.

Allen already has 2 more passing TDs than Cam and has 40 less INTs than Cam had (.77 per game to .83 per game in Allen's favor).

Allen started his career out with a 53% and 59% completion percentages his first two seasons and hasn't been below 63.3% in the 5 years since then.  Cam only has 4 seasons in his career above 60% and only 1 of those was above that 63.3% that Allen has been above for the last 5 years.

(not to mention, that one season Cam had above Allen's number, was his one full season with CMC as the main RB, when he had literally 1/3rd of Cam's completed passes, mostly on screens of course which naturally would have boosted Cam's completion percentages)

Yes, the Bills have done a better job at putting quality pieces around Allen than we did, but that still doesn't change that Allen has surpassed Cam as a QB at this point.

And that's not a knock on Cam, he's still going to be in the HOF, he's still going to be my QB for ever.

It's just appreciating what Allen has become and looking at it objectively.

Why is this even a topic?

 

This like me going to the Bills board and asking who is the better QB Cam or Allen.

 

This a Panthers board rock with your guy until the wheels fall off. Cam has a MVP and a SB appearance. Stop this nonsense!

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37 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Why is this even a topic?

 

This like me going to the Bills board and asking who is the better QB Cam or Allen.

 

This a Panthers board rock with your guy until the wheels fall off. Cam has a MVP and a SB appearance. Stop this nonsense!

The wheels did fall off. 

It's something to talk about other than why we're 3-11 and enduring our 7th losing season in a row under Tepper. 

It's possible to talk football without being completely homer skewed in your opinions. Allen is a better passer than Cam and Cam is/was a better pure runner. I'd give up what we gave up to get BY in a heartbeat for either. 

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This fanbase never embraced Cam.

 

Usually these topics are dominated by the teams board. Not here people will openly not root for Cam.

 

I keep trying to look back on Cam's career and find something that really turned the fanbase off. The only thing I can think about was him getting in a car accident and playing a few weeks later. This guy put his body on the line with not much help on offense. The only MVP in franchise history and people can't even defend him vs other QB's smh.

 

Do better Panthers fans.

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2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

This fanbase never embraced Cam.

 

Usually these topics are dominated by the teams board. Not here people will openly not root for Cam.

 

I keep trying to look back on Cam's career and find something that really turned the fanbase off. The only thing I can think about was him getting in a car accident and playing a few weeks later. This guy put his body on the line with not much help on offense. The only MVP in franchise history and people can't even defend him vs other QB's smh.

 

Do better Panthers fans.

WTF are you even talking about? This fanbase loved Cam. 

Cam is not on the team anymore so I don't know how the fanbase could openly root for Cam.

If you asked anybody if they would take prime Brady over prime Cam, you and a couple others might be the only ones that would take Cam. Most NFL guys would take Allen over Cam. I can be a Panthers fan and not think that Cam is the greatest QB to ever play in the NFL. 

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4 hours ago, fanpanther said:

This topic had me curious about the wr cam played with this is the list from google below wow he had some terrible recievers seems like smitty then curtis samuel were the best maybe ted gin.

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That list is missing a very important piece. I can't quite remember who.

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5 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

WTF are you even talking about? This fanbase loved Cam. 

Cam is not on the team anymore so I don't know how the fanbase could openly root for Cam.

If you asked anybody if they would take prime Brady over prime Cam, you and a couple others might be the only ones that would take Cam. Most NFL guys would take Allen over Cam. I can be a Panthers fan and not think that Cam is the greatest QB to ever play in the NFL. 

When did Brady play for the Panthers? 
 

He didn’t! 
 

Cam beat Brady both times when he beat him as a Patriot. 

 

Brady didn’t ever beat Cam when he was the main Quarterback as Brady was in New England. 
 

 

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