Prime Cam Newton vs Current Josh Allen

[frankw]

If Cam Newton were 23 years old in this iteration of the league where the bar for franchise QB play is about as low as I've seen it in a long time he would absolutely have his way with defenses make no mistake.

[CamWhoaaCam]

Cam probably has over 1k in yards from non calls if he played in today's era he would be Lamar but a bigger version.

 

Stop playing with the GOAT!

[Johnstonny]

3 hours ago, fanpanther said:

No comparison allen all day.  Cam would be like a v6 mustang that some kid puts a loud muffler on and thinks its fast allen would be a corvette.  Not a lambo but still better all around than the v6 mustang

Cam put this team on his shoulders many a times...despite not given sht on the offense. Ur a traitor...fug off.

[Jay Roosevelt]

Cam and Josh Allen are about as similar as players get. I still think Cam was a better runner, though.

[Johnstonny]

1 minute ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Cam and Josh Allen are about as similar as players get. I still think Cam was a better runner, though.

Cam drug a rag tag offense to the superbowl...Allen has been given every weapon and still havent seen his azz in the SB....

[KillerKat]

You can tell who drives F150s around here. Only those people would think Allen is better when he hasnt even sniffed a SB.

Edited 1 hour ago by KillerKat

[NorthTryon]

2 hours ago, Paa Langfart said:

Allen has a likeable persona.  Cam was very polarizing.

I'll say it, and I'm not a race baiter or any of that other nonsense people allude to after truth is told. One is black and one is white. Cam came into the league and set rookie passing records. Josh Allen couldn't hit the broad side of a barn until almost year three. People still insist Cam threw high, but we forget he reignited the career of a 5'9" WR named Steve Smith Sr.  Cam's celebrating was seen as disrespectful and showboating. Allen's celebrating is seen as just good clean fun and exuberance. Cam shredded his shoulder trying to tackle a defender on an interception, but people still post GIFs of one time Cam didn't jump on a fumble anytime anyone mentions his name on social media. I have seen Allen throw picks and jog or walk back to the sideline and never be questioned by fans or media. Both had a veteran WR subtracted from their roster and had MVP seasons close after. You could argue that the MVP Allen is most likely to receive this year should go to S. Barkley, but Philly has robbed him of 12 or so TDs with that brotherly shove play. One was not protected at all by the league, and one gets flags thrown all the time. I seen this debate get really ugly last year on Facebook with fans acting like Cam was Trey Lance compared to Josh Allen and look how many posters who seen prime Cam chime in here to say Allen. Allen has gotten better every year making a monumental leap in year three, is on a tear this year, but he still hasn't gotten to the chip like Cam. Below is an excerpt from an article by Greg Howard during Prime Cam years and it still rings true today. We can act like we are past it, but we still have a long way to go in America.

 

When you're a public figure, there are rules. Here's one: A public personality can be black, talented, or arrogant, but he can't be any more than two of these traits at a time. It's why antics and soundbites from guys like Brett Favre, Johnny Football and Bryce Harper seem almost hyper-American, capable of capturing the country's imagination, but black superstars like Sherman, Floyd Mayweather, and Cam Newton are seen as polarizing, as selfish, as glory boys, as distasteful and perhaps offensive.

[CamWhoaaCam]

8 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

You can tell who drives F150s around here. Only those people would think Allen is better when he hasnt even sniffed a SB.

Oh shittt!

 

He brought back the F150 talk lol. I think my first ban came from using that lingo. The crazy thing is I still have no idea what it means lol. 

 

Speaking of pickup trucks I think I'm going to Nissan Titan next year. My Ram stays in the shop more than my 2010 Camry smh. Brand new truck but comes with hella problems. They say the Titan V8 is the most reliable of all the big brands.

Edited 1 hour ago by CamWhoaaCam

[Silent Majority]

Embarrassingly lame

[frankw]

20 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Oh shittt!

 

He brought back the F150 talk lol. I think my first ban came from using that lingo. The crazy thing is I still have no idea what it means lol. 

 

Speaking of pickup trucks I think I'm going to Nissan Titan next year. My Ram stays in the shop more than my 2010 Camry smh. Brand new truck but comes with hella problems. They say the Titan V8 is the most reliable of all the big brands.

Nissan in the 80's and 90's generally were extremely reliable vehicles. Nissan engines and transmissions for the last 20 years or so however are hit and miss at best. I would be highly skeptical of any hype but that's just me.

[CamWhoaaCam]

Just now, frankw said:

Nissan in the 80's and 90's generally were extremely reliable vehicles. Nissan engines and transmissions for the last 20 years or so however are hit and miss at best. I would be highly skeptical of any hype but that's just me.

Nah I did a lot of deep digging for pickup trucks. All of them have their issues, but the 21-24 V8 titan seems to be the most reliable based on my research. The diesel is were Nissan messed up. I don't need a diesel truck.

 

Also Nissan has the best warranty 5yr 100k. By far the best deal on the market. Also while they are outdated I'm kind of excited about getting one because they no longer make them 24 was the last year of production. I think my mind is made up. Always rooted for the underdogs anyway. No more RAM for me baby!

 

Titan here I come in 2025!

[jfra78]

3 hours ago, Paa Langfart said:

Allen has a likeable persona.  Cam was very polarizing.

Only if your looking for reasons for him to be polarizing.  

[Brooklyn 3.0]

1 hour ago, KillerKat said:

You can tell who drives F150s around here. Only those people would think Allen is better when he hasnt even sniffed a SB.

Again, Allen will beat every record Cam has. Not everyone gets to a SB. And he just might make it this year.  Cam couldn't even give the team back to back winning records. Sweet race baiting though.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

He brought back the F150 talk lol. I think my first ban came from using that lingo. The crazy thing is I still have no idea what it means lol.

It means "only white rednecks drive F150s" and white rednecks are "probably racist".