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Bryce May Not Be the Answer

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6 hours ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

BY in 7 games since returning from being benched - 19.5 points per game

Our washed up 37 year old backup QB in 5 starts - 19.4 points per game

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dalton did it without thielen as well

bryce defenders will tell you that points and wins don't matter though. it's all the eyeball test. and even then, you can't trust your lying eyes. close them. it's all about feel. remember luke with the blast helmet learning to block the lasers? that's what bryce is like.

he's a little microscopic organism that lives inside of you that gives true believers magical powers and just like in star wars, most people think it's fuging stupid and will never work and when it's finally over everyone will try to pretend it never happened

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On 12/15/2024 at 5:23 PM, 45catfan said:

First round QBs RARELY go into their 4th year without the 5th year option picked up.  That is unless the team is having doubts. If Bryce looks bad to meh next year, we do not go into 2026 with him in the long term plans, period. Forget this year, it's too much of a mixed bag.  He's got one more year to prove himself.

All that said, I get the rookie QB contract concept, but that's only if he's THE guy.  I'm still not sold on Young. Next year focus on the defense and few more pieces on the offense.  If Bryce doesn't flourish, I mean completely ball out, cut bait in '26.

Totally fair take. I think if you pursue roster building first before the QB situation then when you find your guy it'll help them to be in a successful position is all that I mean. And especially when you do not have a large QB contract in the way.

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21 minutes ago, Diehardpanth02 said:

Totally fair take. I think if you pursue roster building first before the QB situation then when you find your guy it'll help them to be in a successful position is all that I mean. And especially when you do not have a large QB contract in the way.

Thats why I support the Journeyman and Day 2 QB combo. You can build your team until you have your guy. And who knows, one of those could turn out to your guy in the process.

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58 minutes ago, Diehardpanth02 said:

Totally fair take. I think if you pursue roster building first before the QB situation then when you find your guy it'll help them to be in a successful position is all that I mean. And especially when you do not have a large QB contract in the way.

Key point being if, BIG IF, the rookie contract QB is the guy.  Bryce is giving us every indication he is not.  Seattle is the perfect example, they were able to build around Russell Wilson on his rookie deal. However, how would Seattle have looked if Russell Wilson had played like Zack Wilson?  The strategy is completely sound, no question, but applying it where all the dominoes actually fall in place is way more tricky.

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Watching Darnold and Mayfield (who both looked completely helpless here) now tearing it up on other teams....I'm not sure it's fair to judge any QB at the current shitastic state we're in currently. 

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1 hour ago, Huffgolf30 said:

Watching Darnold and Mayfield (who both looked completely helpless here) now tearing it up on other teams....I'm not sure it's fair to judge any QB at the current shitastic state we're in currently. 

To be fair, Mayfield was playing way out of scheme in 2022. 

Darnold played out of scheme with Joe Brady in 2021, but he did well with McAdoo in 2022 after Baker struggled. That was really just Rhule and Fitterer shoving square pegs in round holes.

Bryce has now looked like ass in 2-3 different offenses.

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6 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

To be fair, Mayfield was playing way out of scheme in 2022. 

Darnold played out of scheme with Joe Brady in 2021, but he did well with McAdoo in 2022 after Baker struggled. That was really just Rhule and Fitterer shoving square pegs in round holes.

Bryce has now looked like ass in 2-3 different offenses.

Mayfield and Darnold are both much more physically gifted. Their questions were always decision making (frankly imo still are)

That was supposedly Young's strength but I feel he's as inconsistent there as his footwork is.

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22 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Mayfield and Darnold are both much more physically gifted. Their questions were always decision making (frankly imo still are)

That was supposedly Young's strength but I feel he's as inconsistent there as his footwork is.

He’s going to get traded to the Rams for a 3rd or something and sit behind Stafford for a year or two with McVay. He’ll get a shot, be surrounded by weapons and fail. Finally, then will he be labeled as a back up.

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4 hours ago, Huffgolf30 said:

Watching Darnold and Mayfield (who both looked completely helpless here) now tearing it up on other teams....I'm not sure it's fair to judge any QB at the current shitastic state we're in currently. 

Darnold wasnt completely helpless. He actually had some good games here. I mean We didn't almost make the playoffs 2 years ago with him playing bad. 

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