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Has this game changed feelings about Young?


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2 hours ago, NAS said:

Not enough to justify taking a QB in the first round given a weak class and when the entire team stinks and needs help.  
 

Give it another year, but even if we decide to eventually move on we need to put a QB in a better situation. 

Got to agree with you, try to fix the OL and defense with this draft and then look for a QB between now and the ‘26 season. Still hope BY can improve, but don’t see a franchise QB in him. 

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3 hours ago, Jmac said:

The entire team shat the bed. The thing that is most disappointing is that Young showed his negative tendencies and deficiencies again. I can't put the entire blame on him by any means. I was hoping that they had laid having to take a QB early to rest, I'm not so sure now.

I know the Oline stunk it up big time and didn't help Bryce at all. The coaching on both sides of the ball got owned. Do you feel confident that taking a QB later in the draft would work or in the top of the draft would be a better move.

The draft will have to primarily on defense, no doubt. Just not confident yet that Bryce would be the guy long term. Better to be save than sorry.

No. I said from day 1 that he is not the answer. He is not physically talented enough to justify the price that was paid for him. His bad habits absolutely kill this team and he just cannot protect the ball. 

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Not really. He was still considerably better today than he was earlier this year and for most of last year.

The team as a whole played poorly today; the Bryce from weeks 1 + 2 would have have completely folded and finished with like 80 yards passing. That he didn't do that is another sign of progress.

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56 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

the Bryce from weeks 1 + 2 would have have completely folded and finished with like 80 yards passing. That he didn't do that is another sign of progress.

You consider losing by multiple scores and being unable to manage additional garbage time points at the end of the game without throwing a very ugly interception on his final drive not only not folding but a sign of progress?

And if you remove the 83 yard touchdown pass in the 2nd quarter he had 136 passing yards for the game.

By your standad we might as well bring in Kyle Allen and give him another look.

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Nope. I didn’t think he was that guy even during his “solid” 5 (id have only given him 2 games) games.

I know we’re going to roll him out there next year; I’ve accepted that, but when we go through this again next year, and win 3-5 games, I hope we’re ready to move on. 
 

I don’t feel confident with him behind center. 

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13 minutes ago, frankw said:

You consider losing by multiple scores and being unable to manage additional garbage time points at the end of the game without throwing a very ugly interception on his final drive not only not folding but a sign of progress?

And if you remove the 83 yard touchdown pass in the 2nd quarter he had 136 passing yards for the game.

By your standad we might as well bring in Kyle Allen and give him another look.

That’s another thing. These 160/170/180 yard games aren’t going to cut it. We need to be scoring at or close to 30 ppg. That is a struggle for him and this offense. I know it’s not all on him, but he’s a huge part in why we’re not doing that.

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4 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Closing the gap on stroud my ass.

Saw that thread and ignored that foolishness lol. Bryce has been too terrible outside of the “solid 5 games” he’s had to make any declarations like that. Even the solid 5 games is stretching it out a bit. I’d give him 2/3 decent to good games.

Even with this being a “down” year for Stroud, he’s still top 7-8 in passing yards, and his 17 TD 9 Int season is miles ahead of Bryce. 

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