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OFFICIAL Dallas Cowboys vs Carolina Panthers week 15 GameDay thread


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2 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

This game is gonna open a huge can of worms for panther fans everywhere lol

so many people crowned bryce on a very small sample size of good games and now he has a horrible game against a bad cowboys team

im not saying this wipes out the progress that bryce made. But boy oh boy does it mean that QB isnt a solved problem for this organization. This game shows you its still an unknown.

i wouldnt expect the panthers to draft a qb in R1  but . Any other round? I wouldn't be surprised. Especially if bryce has another bad game or multiple before the year ends

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So, I think what we’ve learned in this stretch since BY has been back in the lineup is BY isn’t as bad as he looked, but he still isn’t the future, and Canales is a really good coach who can get the most out of any QB.  Today, the defense and OL have been a huge problem, but I think we’re still in this game without Bryce’s turnovers.  He’s not as horrible as he looked last year and the first two games this year, but he is still only a backup-level QB in the pros.

The fumbles are one thing, but that can of corn he just threw on top of that?  We’ve seen enough.

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Just now, mav1234 said:

Whatever Young had on his deep throws vs KC and TB has just been gone today.

If we see another game like this this year I think we should consider a QB if one actually falls to us.

Honestly my friend I'm looking at it like those games were possibly a fugazi just like that Packers game was last season.

These small sample sizes of better play aren't enough to judge. At best right now all we can say is he is up and down. And his definition of up really isn't that high not to justify a first overall pick. But his definition of down? It's really bad.

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Still figuring out when to put some pepper on his passes. He has to figure that out. Don't understand the "he can't make that throw" crew. He's done it alot. He just didn't. That's the concern. Not that he can't but he isn't. Just default to putting some fire on thise passes. 

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    • Think it's broader than that. If they have a bunch of physical red flags, don't pick/trade the farm to get them 1-1, or even later still. There is a time to take that risk in a player with physical red flags, but trading assets and value from early rounds (4) ain't it.
    • Howell is garbage in the interception % category. He's may not get may more chances at if that doesn't improve significantly.
    • Canales tried to establish a run game, hell 1st drive, went to it 2nd drive on 2nd and 5, but got nada and a penalty to make it 3rd and 10. 3rd drive of the game back to the ground, oh that ended in another turnover, INT. Following drive run again and backwards to start the drive. Then a penalty to make it 2nd and 18, sorry not running out of that one.  Following drive is the Coker TD damn didn't establish the run there dave, for shame....... Stare the 2nd half with with a bryce fumble. We went 3 and out the next 2 drives after the fumble. Started with a run the 2nd drive of the half, as you wanted the 1st drive after seeing a fumble, and got 1 yard. What did you want another run then? In 3rd and a mile after the sack, running wasnt an option. Dallas scores a td after that 3 and out. So it was 24-7. Next drive starts with a big sack, so again want to run when it's long yardage and 2nd and 19? 3rd down was 11 yards to go, so again want to run? Dallas scores again so it's 27-7 and now the 4th quarter. Game set match. Woohoo we got one more TD, and the string plays out. Sean that story all last year. By the 27-7 mark, games over. Dave tried to run the ball, but either it was inopportune to run more in the 1st half, or a mistake cost is the opportunity. So no way no how this is on Dave for not trying to run the ball. Abandon the run in the 2nd half my ass. Unless you really want foxball and RR back (both are available, I wonder why) to run every 1st and most 2nd downs, we tried or it wasn't an option in the second half. So try another reason than abandoning the running game, dang troll. Stop blaming the coach for Bryce again.    So to surmise, what we passed on 1st down to start the half and your blaming that? your words ' should have run the ball instead' is post fumble (bad Bryce outcome). We get a yard like 2nd drive in the 2nd half via running it and it's back to saying the running game is putting Bryce in a bad spot. That's the song and dance we heard last year and to start the year. Can't have it both ways. That fumble was a huge swing, as was the fumble in the red zone and driving with relative ease. 
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