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"Don’t Look Now, but Bryce Young is Closing the Gap on C.J. Stroud"

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https://theanalyst.com/2024/12/bryce-young-is-closing-the-gap-on-c-j-stroud

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Before you all go bonkers, the article does go on to say stroud is still ahead, however bryce has made significant improvements to get CLOSER to stroud, whereas stroud has been worse this season.

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Stroud is still ahead of young, but the Trajectories are going in different directions.

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Next year will be interesting. Stroud fell into an amazing situation his first year and did a great job taking advantage of it. Bryce had basically the exact opposite. Now this year Strouds team has regressed and so has he. Bryce again, the opposite. Year 3 will be real fun to follow between these 2. I think both will be great 

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Young's growth in the past few weeks has been astronomical. I'm not going to sit here and assume he's already hit his ceiling. His play has forced me to stop making any assumptions. I doubt after week 2, even the most die hard Panthers optimists and Bryce supporters envisioned any world where Bryce and Stroud could be uttered in the same breath with a straight face. The way Bryce Young is raising his game and CJ Stroud is regressing or at best stagnating, I suddenly don't think that's an outlandish possibility. And articles like this seem to hint it as well. But this is obviously still a time will tell situation.

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Too small of a sample size to make any sound argument right now. If someone wants to argue otherwise by all means. But it would be rooted in hopium. We need to establish this is not a flash in the pan.

For him to even enter into the conversation of a QB who was in MVP talks as a rookie would require the same. If he is doing this and more consistently next season then we have the basis of an argument. Right now he is in the 20-25 range at best in the midst of a season that is a rare low point for passing overall in the NFL.

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58 minutes ago, scpanther22 said:

This is the kind of narratives you get when they're only watching the highlights from both players

What do you mean?

The article seems pretty reasoned - neither player has had a great sophomore year, but Young has been improving the last 6 starts while Stroud has not, though he a lot of that appears to be on supporting cast... The article is clear to say Stroud is still ahead.

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    • Captain Morgan
      "Don’t Look Now, but Bryce Young is Closing the Gap on C.J. Stroud"

      By Captain Morgan · Posted

      Bryce Young OVER 14.5 rushing yards (-125) While Young's success as a passer is all the rage recently, the Carolina Panthers QB has quietly been running the ball more willingly -- and successfully -- and has been over this number in each of his past four contests. Now he gets a Dallas Cowboys team giving up 24.4 rushing yards per game to opposing quarterbacks, second only to the Cincinnati Bengals for the worst number in football (and by 0.1 yards at that). By yards per rush surrendered (5.7), they're fourth worst.   Some of those numbers are inflated because of the quarterbacks the Cowboys have faced this season, a list that includes Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Justin Fields and Jayden Daniels. But Drew Lock, Deshaun Watson, C.J. Stroud and Brock Purdy all cleared this number against Dallas as well, and those are quarterbacks closer to the Young mold -- decently mobile, though not considered elite dual threats. There's some concern that the Panthers won't need to drop back much against the Cowboys and their dreadful rush defense, but I do think Dallas is playing better against the run as of late. And the Panthers defense is so poor that it's unlikely this game becomes a blowout. (Imagine that! A Panthers blowout!) There should be enough opportunities for Young that he gets the two or three scampers he needs to clear this number.  
    • Captain Morgan
      "Don’t Look Now, but Bryce Young is Closing the Gap on C.J. Stroud"

      By Captain Morgan · Posted

      after the short into, first item is this   Props that Pop: Don't be shocked by a big day for Panthers vs. Cowboys QB Props:   Bryce Young OVER 19.5 completed passes (Even)   Loza: Young is by no means an efficient passer, but his completion percentage has improved since being reinstalled as the team's starter in Week 8. The second-year signal-caller has additionally managed at least 19 completions for three straight games since the Carolina Panthers' Week 11 bye. In fact, he recorded exactly 19 completions while facing a stout Philadelphia Eagles defense that has allowed the fifth-lowest completion percentage thus far in 2024. Young's odds of improving on that total are high, given this week's matchup against the Dallas Cowboys. Dallas' secondary got Trevon Diggs back last Monday, but the defense simultaneously lost emerging star linebacker DeMarvion Overshown. The compromised pass rush figures to work in Young's favor.   https://www.espn.com/espn/betting/story/_/id/42898520/2024-nfl-season-betting-odds-daniel-dopp-liz-loza-football-props-pop-week-15
    • frankw
      "Don’t Look Now, but Bryce Young is Closing the Gap on C.J. Stroud"

      By frankw · Posted

      I would say the author should have chosen a better title. Regardless I still take issue with some of the logic. Particularly with saying don't judge them on their rookie seasons. That's just a little too convenient for me considering the stark contrast between them and the current case being made. I have no idea what Stroud or Young will go on to do for the rest of their respective careers but between the two of them at this point in time Bryce is the one who will have to do everything not only really well but with a little more on top to slam the door shut on those first 18 or so games that were at times historically bad.
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