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Currently at pick #4


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3 minutes ago, Moonraker said:

I get this is for fun but not worth seriously talking about until the season is over. It's such a hot race to the bottom that our position could change drastically with 3 games left.

yeah its funny... cause we could end up with like the 15th pick.. or #1.

Its wild.. there are so many bad teams.

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5 hours ago, mav1234 said:

I'd rather he be regularly used as a CB and just have an occasional offensive down. If he's playing 50/50 we need to two other players to cover the other 50s because nobody else is going to be able to do that. Plus rhythm and familiarity on both sides of the ball is a big deal for a team... I'm not say never play him on O or anything like that, but i think he needs to be drafted as less of a slash player and more of a CB with some dynamic sprinkling into the O.

I am not disagreeing I am just saying he is good enough to plug him in where you are leaning the most at any given time. If you need him at corner play him there. But also Bryce needs weapons specifically a number 1 playmaker. I think adding hunter atleast buys leggett time to develop further and add in a sprinkle of down field magic.

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First of all, I think we should fix as many areas as possible other than QB going into 2025.  Young has played well the 2nd half of the season and needs more evaluation.  

I think DL should be our focus whether it is Graham or Carter with our 1st pick. I wouldn't be sad if we used our 2nd round pick on another D-Lineman.  It will be much easier to get a WR on a one- or two-year free agent contract than to pick a WR that could be JAG.  This also gives XL and Coker another year to develop. 

Our free agent picks in 2024 for the D-Line were, IMO, designed to complement Brown.  Once Brown went out those players were mediocre.  We need to have insurance in case Brown comes back and doesn't perform to his pre-injury play. 

Sadly, I think we should move on from Evero.  He doesn't seem to have the heart for this team. 

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43 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

First of all, I think we should fix as many areas as possible other than QB going into 2025.  Young has played well the 2nd half of the season and needs more evaluation.  

I think DL should be our focus whether it is Graham or Carter with our 1st pick. I wouldn't be sad if we used our 2nd round pick on another D-Lineman.  It will be much easier to get a WR on a one- or two-year free agent contract than to pick a WR that could be JAG.  This also gives XL and Coker another year to develop. 

Our free agent picks in 2024 for the D-Line were, IMO, designed to complement Brown.  Once Brown went out those players were mediocre.  We need to have insurance in case Brown comes back and doesn't perform to his pre-injury play. 

Sadly, I think we should move on from Evero.  He doesn't seem to have the heart for this team. 

It's a strong interior dline draft looking from afar. So there might be quality there in the second where we don't need to double down with Brown coming back and surely some signings in FA. And just throwing it out there i think Hunter declares as a WR because of second contracts 

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19 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

I think Mason Graham needs to be the guy. That or we trade down to 7-10 and get a second rounder out of it. Derrick Brown desperately needs some help on that side of the ball and there's no guarantee he's going to be the same player when he gets back.

Would love TMac but we could sign another vet WR in FA that is ready to go and doesn't need development. Coker, XL, and Sanders are going to be key pieces going forward anyways. If Dionte Johnson wasn't a nutjob WR would be fine.

We also need the future a Center, Free Safety, and we also need to take the best kicker in the draft. No more fuging around with Eddie P. We need a stud.

Our talent level is so low, and our defensive needs so vast, that just about any position we take in the first round at DL, LB, S would make us immediately better. I wouldn't even be "upset " if we took Will Johnson or Hunter at CB. Those guys would make us make our pass defense better overnight. My only drawback to to those guys would be the fact that they wouldn't heavily impact our RUN DEFENSE. 

As some have pointed out, our run defense is historically bad. You won't compete for championships if teams are gashing for 150-200 yards every game. A stud at DT, DE, LB, or even a hard hitting/in the box  Safety would help that issue immediately. But, if you did take a shutdown corner, you could use the rest of the draft and FA to solve our other issues.

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The sad thing is we should be running away with the number one pick as we are statistically the worst team in the league by a large margin. Our point differential is 40 points worse than the second worst team in the raiders. 
 

we’re dead last in points against by 31 points. And 39 points above the giants who are the worst offensive team. 
 

 

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    • If Canales has helped Bryce a “poo ton” and this is what we have then what’s the fuging point? And the offense wasn’t humming with Dalton in there either, except against the raiders who’ll likely be firing their coach after this season.  XL is probably the fourth best looking receiving option on the team right now behind thielen, Coker, and sanders. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that. Who cares about total receiving yards when everyone else has missed time and there’s like 180 yards of receiving a game.  and lmao they were “believing” shut the fug up. They lost and for the most part those games were all the defense shutting down the other team. The chiefs turned around and gave up an actual impressive stat line to Aiden O’Connell and I not even the most delusional raiders fans think that means anything. Bryce did nothing against the eagles, the Bucs are a mash unit, and any one of us could have done that Bryce did against the giants and saints.  And as far as who they’d get, they didn’t have any trouble hiring the guy you’re tripping over yourself to defend. They also could have hired Dan Quinn, who’s actually succeeding with a young qb.  And people are acting like the risk of getting paid for not working for five years is a negative. Canales is going to spend the next half a decade getting paid to watch porn in his Bible camp office.
    • the Dallas game definitely quelled the hype. his biggest issue will always be his size, and that shows when he gets sacked. he's simply not big or strong enough to protect the ball. even in the KC game, he fumbled it on a basic sack and thank god icky landed on it. INT's are going to happen, most fans don't understand that tipped balls and wrong routes account for most interceptions. but the wet-bar-of-soap type fumbles upon contact are a huge reg flag. the common theme with players like Darnold and Mayfield who previously played for us and are now excelling makes me want to practice patience more when it comes to the QB position. I think Bryce bought himself another season, perhaps with more weapons. I do like the idea of adding a QB whether that's a FA or mid round rookie. if the same mistakes occur next season and we see no further growth or most importantly, wins, then it will be time to move on. just a quick reminder though, football is not an individual sport. QB is just one position, albeit the most important. 
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