Currently at pick #4

[Jmac]

How far do you all think Mason Graham could possibly fall in the draft. Him and Brown together could cure the Dline woes big time.

If they do win one or two more games, that may put them of contention for him.

If they could snatch him and a quality DE in this draft, defense would be stout and become a force.

Find a LB in the draft or FA and possibly a corner, they would be sitting pretty. I know they have to fiqure out a WR 1 and another running back. They have alot of picks to find the RB. 

They will have to fiqure out if they can find a WR In FA.

 

[CamWhoaaCam]

Sounds good, but I rather have Hunter if available.

 

The thought of Horn/Hunter DB tandem seems more dynamic than Brown/Graham tandem.

[Shocker]

I would be fine with picking him personally.  I think I want TMac as of today though 

[jfra78]

Not overly impressed with tmac honestly 

[Shocker]

19 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Not overly impressed with tmac honestly 

I am not completely sold either.  I like him but would really like to see him run sub4.5 at some point.  I think we need WR pretty bad though 

[CamWhoaaCam]

24 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Not overly impressed with tmac honestly 

 

3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I am not completely sold either.  I like him but would really like to see him run sub4.5 at some point.  I think we need WR pretty bad though 

@tukafan21 in shambles.

 

Hunter just won the Biletnikoff award as well. Not bad for the 3rd best WR prospect in the draft.

[Martin]

6 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

 

@tukafan21 in shambles.

 

Hunter just won the Biletnikoff award as well. Not bad for the 3rd best WR prospect in the draft.

I might be wrong, but I think they give the award based on their play in college and not how they project to the NFL.

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, Martin said:

I might be wrong, but I think they give the award based on their play in college and not how they project to the NFL.

Well duh

 

[rayzor]

Silly conversation. Like we're going to be picking that low.

[tukafan21]

45 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

 

@tukafan21 in shambles.

 

Hunter just won the Biletnikoff award as well. Not bad for the 3rd best WR prospect in the draft.

I honestly didn't think T-Mac was going to win the award anyways, but it being Hunter is absolutely shocking to me and makes literally zero sense.

Nash won the triple crown, he lead the nation in catches, yards, and TDs (as well as having more yards per reception than Hunter too).  I'm not collegiate historian, but I have a feeling it's very rare for any player to win the triple crown in college, just far too many players out there putting up video game numbers at this level for someone to be tops in all 3.

I said all year how T-Mac's stats were being held back by his QB play, play calling, and overall state of the team.  That he still was 3rd in the nation in yards was ridiculous if you watched every Arizona game this year and saw how much of a mess we were (especially compared to last year).

[tukafan21]

41 minutes ago, Martin said:

I might be wrong, but I think they give the award based on their play in college and not how they project to the NFL.

Yep, and as I just said in my previous post, I didn't expect him to win it, his stats have been depressed all year because of the team.

Put T-Mac in that Colorado offense this year though and he's putting up bigger numbers than Hunter did.  He had more yards and yards per catch than him on a worse team with nobody else to take coverage from him and a worse QB, he's have crushed it in Colorado.

[tukafan21]

To my point about the numbers T-Mac would have put up if he was there instead of Hunter

T-Mac had 84 rec, 1,319 yds, 8 TDs

Hunter had 92 rec, 1,152 yds, 14 TDs

Shedeur had 1,000 more yards and 17 more TDs than T-Mac's QB... on only 24 more attempts on the entire season.

The 2nd highest receiving yardage by any Arizona player was a WR with 323 yards, after that it was a RB with 245 and a TE with 217... nobody else had over 196.

Colorado had WRs with 880, 617, 617, 434, 277, and 216

Arizona had 10 receiving TDs other than T-Mac... Colorado had 21 other than Hunter

T-Mac also only had 5% more of Arizona's catches than Hunter had, so it's not like you can say T-Mac's numbers are because of volume.  They spread the ball around plenty, but there was nobody else who could make plays or even scare the defense into not sending extra guys T-Mac's way.  

Put him in that offense with a better QB, scheme, and other WRs to make sure he can't be double or tripled on every single snap, the numbers he'd have put up would have been absolutely crazy and people would be talking about him as the second coming.

 

Edited December 13 by tukafan21

[jfra78]

40 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

To my point about the numbers T-Mac would have put up if he was there instead of Hunter

T-Mac had 84 rec, 1,319 yds, 8 TDs

Hunter had 92 rec, 1,152 yds, 14 TDs

Shedeur had 1,000 more yards and 17 more TDs than T-Mac's QB... on only 24 more attempts on the entire season.

The 2nd highest receiving yardage by any Arizona player was a WR with 323 yards, after that it was a RB with 245 and a TE with 217... nobody else had over 196.

Colorado had WRs with 880, 617, 617, 434, 277, and 216

Arizona had 10 receiving TDs other than T-Mac... Colorado had 21 other than Hunter

T-Mac also only had 5% more of Arizona's catches than Hunter had, so it's not like you can say T-Mac's numbers are because of volume.  They spread the ball around plenty, but there was nobody else who could make plays or even scare the defense into not sending extra guys T-Mac's way.  

Put him in that offense with a better QB, scheme, and other WRs to make sure he can't be double or tripled on every single snap, the numbers he'd have put up would have been absolutely crazy and people would be talking about him as the second coming.

 

I just don't see it, he looks like a possession reciever in the NFL

[tukafan21]

4 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I just don't see it, he looks like a possession reciever in the NFL

Don't get me wrong, he's great at the 10 yard crossing routes to pick up a first down, his big body and hands allow him to excel doing that.

But the thing he does best is make big plays downfield because of his ability to make contested catches, he's a guy that you can throw to even when he's covered and have a decent chance of him coming down with the ball over the defenders.

Thielen is a possession WR, T-Mac is nothing like him.

The popular comps are Evans, London, Higgins because they are all current players, but to me, he's always reminded me of AJ Green, who again, is no possession WR