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I know most of y'all want defense but currently at pick 4...


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29 minutes ago, No Maam said:

Agree to disagree 

1. If you can get Higgins why not pay him?? It’s not like we don’t have the money to put into the Wr position..

2. Why are facts disingenuous?? We are literally talking about the best WR class in a decade 7 to 9 drafted in the 1st round.. He’s not going to have the scouting scores that Harrison, Nabers, Odunzee, Thomas or Ladd had.. He’s might have ratings lower the Mitchell Whorthy and Coleman as well.. And I forgot Ricky P..  It’s natural for this class to be weaker a year after so many WR’s came out last year.. Being the best in a weaker class is good for him but doesn’t automatically mean it’s a good thing and he is a number 1 on this team ..

3. You’re right about QB that’s why ppl are saying it’s a weaker class then last year..

4. The rest of this is fictional if’s but’s and excuses.. Plain and simple my point stands this draft is strong defensively which falls directly to a major need for this team .. Why fight against the grain when it’s a need and more talented players on that side of the ball??

LOL if you think he'd rank behind anyone you named after Odunze, and I think he's going to end up with draft grades in the exact same range as him and Nabers.  Just the fact that you think those other WRs would rank ahead of him is proof that you haven't watched enough of him to know him as a player, that's just comical.

Then that you don't think he'd be a #1 on the Panthers is also one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here, he's already better than any WR on our roster.  

And if Higgins were to sign here, we would have to make him a Top 5 paid WR in the league.  

Paying someone that kind of money who isn't worth the contract instead of spending it on vet defenders who can be impact starters from week 1 next year is exactly how you keep screwing up a franchise.

T-Mac is equally as good as Higgins right now, within a year or two of NFL experience it won't even be a debate anymore.  Spending the money he'd need to sign with us instead of drafting T-Mac and spending that money on defensive free agents would be a fireable offense for Morgan.

It can be a "down WR year" in comparison to last year given how many went in the 1st round, but that doesn't mean the players at the top of the draft wouldn't have been drafted highly last year (again, assuming this year's version of them, it's not fair to judge a Sophomore T-Mac last year against them as he's being drafted now).

Burden will go in the 12-15 range this year, he probably would have fallen back into the late 20's last year, but T-Mac and Hunter wouldn't, they might not be Top 5 because of those QB's and Harrison last year, but they'd have been Top 10 graded guys like Nabers and Odunze (who went over who would all come down to team preference I think, but all about the same grades).

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9 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

LOL if you think he'd rank behind anyone you named after Odunze, and I think he's going to end up with draft grades in the exact same range as him and Nabers.  Just the fact that you think those other WRs would rank ahead of him is proof that you haven't watched enough of him to know him as a player, that's just comical.

Then that you don't think he'd be a #1 on the Panthers is also one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here, he's already better than any WR on our roster.  

And if Higgins were to sign here, we would have to make him a Top 5 paid WR in the league.  

Paying someone that kind of money who isn't worth the contract instead of spending it on vet defenders who can be impact starters from week 1 next year is exactly how you keep screwing up a franchise.

T-Mac is equally as good as Higgins right now, within a year or two of NFL experience it won't even be a debate anymore.  Spending the money he'd need to sign with us instead of drafting T-Mac and spending that money on defensive free agents would be a fireable offense for Morgan.

It can be a "down WR year" in comparison to last year given how many went in the 1st round, but that doesn't mean the players at the top of the draft wouldn't have been drafted highly last year (again, assuming this year's version of them, it's not fair to judge a Sophomore T-Mac last year against them as he's being drafted now).

Burden will go in the 12-15 range this year, he probably would have fallen back into the late 20's last year, but T-Mac and Hunter wouldn't, they might not be Top 5 because of those QB's and Harrison last year, but they'd have been Top 10 graded guys like Nabers and Odunze (who went over who would all come down to team preference I think, but all about the same grades).

Sorry bro jmo..

He is Drake London light!

Tmac is big contested catch wr type guy.. 

Not a great athlete not very fast solid route runner good hands.. 
 

We need the WR help but 

1. Is rather have a vet who is ready to go day 1..  All rookies are development guys and we have 2 already on the roster.. You’re setting up a scenario where we drafted 2 1st round WR who will need to be paid around the same time not to mention the undrafted guy who could be better then both of them… 3 Wr needing to be paid on their 2nd contract around the same time is bad team management..

2. If we draft a WR top 5 he has to be more then just “big contested catch guy” .. Sorry I need explosive athlete , Yard after catch , Speed and route runner professional guy.. Aka (Jamar Chase).. If I’m spending a top pick on a player..

3. This not paying Higgins thing is a joke .. Why not ?? He is a proven Number target guy.. Every thing you like about Tmac Higgins already does plus he faster.. And lately every team with a young QB they wanted to develop made a move and paid a top level FA WR.. Again we have the money and we’re not spending a lot at the Wr position.. Paying Higgins helps the team sooner helps BY sooner and fits the timeline better.. When it’s time to pay XL and Coker Higgins is coming off the books.. Instead of using another 1st round pick and having the whole future WR corps having to be paid at the same time..

Again JMO

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